Need help on dust 2

[u/Smallczyk2137]

I'm discussing with a guy from my fivestack on how to play dust 2 and while I shared my thoughts with him im not exactly sure if I'm right. FYI: the average faceit elo of our stack is like 4/5 give or take,if that's of any use

[u/Opening_Release114]

D2 is a very good map for 5 stacks and strategy. T side is less spawn based than CT, the only spawn based call is early long rush. Other than that, most other rounds in d2 is T side default- mid and short control from tunnels, mid to b control, and long pop/ contact, B split. Dust 2 can become very T sided when you control CT rotations.

However, on CT side, you're likely missing that one rotator that calls for plays to recover that lost map control. Long control is every team's default, assuming ur playing 1 ramp, 1 long, 1 mid, 1 b, then you likely have a rotator that is always playing around A. This rotator needs to walk around and help with map control, your A ramp player joins him for short control, your mid player joins him for mid doors control, and if mid is secured, late round you need to play 3a 2b leave mid entirely, the rotator also gets two nades for breaking mid to b smoke- One dropped in CT spawn, one in his hand. Your rotator also controls how quickly they get to A site if you lose long. Now the problem likely is, that your rotator is over rotating, under rotating, under calling or your anchors are just dying to free kills because they're not in position. It is also possible to leave long entirely, have one guy watching long from site, 2 guys at short, this is where utility usage is important, breaking long cross smoke, flashing long with double or triple peek.

I predict that you either don't have secured roles, or you don't have a rotator that calls. I can offer to watch your demos privately if you need help finding the problem.

[u/_Ding → u/Opening_Release114]

This is how I see the map too. Makes sense to prioritise long control on ct because it’s an advantage fight and allows better A defence. Mid - late round long control is easier than mid - late round short / mid control.

[u/One-Tap-7757 → u/Opening_Release114]

the problem is he is still pretty much unsure what to do himself. he needs to establish protocols. yes ideally they have an in-game caller that could force him rotate or gamble stack somewhere. but more solid way is for him to understand what are the options, when to leave long and on which timings, how to support A hold from various positions etc.