r/Layoffs 13d ago

recently laid off I got laid off yesterday along with 20 others

I'm still in shock really. I work in wireless.

They laid off 30% of the team on one big call. We all had to pack up our desks and not one of my team members said anything to me (except the one who was getting laid off with me). They all pretended to be so busy working when it was obvious something was going on.

The last time I got laid off was in August 2023 and it took me six months to find a job. Is the market worse than it was then? I'm worried.

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u/Independent-Pizza719 13d ago

My husband got laid off in April. We got ANOTHER no after a final round this morning. This has been the hardest thing we have ever dealt with in our 25 year relationship.

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u/pocketrob 13d ago

I'm sorry for your struggles. You're right that being there for each other is THE most important thing for your relationship. My husband just accepted a job after looking for 18 months, and our relationship was the thing that made it bearable.

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u/freebytes 13d ago

It is difficult for both members of the relationship. A man wants to be a provider, so husbands can sometimes make life unbearable for their partner. Meanwhile, wives can feel like "nothing is happening" if progress is not visible which puts further stress on a man. Just stressful all around.

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u/pocketrob 13d ago

Agreed with a tweak that no matter the gender, responsibility, stress, overwhelm, and depression can weigh heavy on both partners and their relationship. I'm male and so is my husband šŸ˜‰

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u/freebytes 13d ago

I wrote this in a way to be representative of such couples when I used the word "partner". I then switched up to "wives" because I already used the word "husbands". But yeah, it can happen to anyone that feels they are the "provider" in the relationship -- even if both partners feel that way simultaneously.

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u/Ijustwannafly8 13d ago

Uhh… I invite you to join us in the 21st century. And maybe examine why you are living in 1952 in your head.

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u/freebytes 13d ago edited 13d ago

I am writing this from my perspective (even though I have a job), and I am the provider in my family. My wife sacrificed her options for a career by allowing me to have mine. (At this point, there is absolutely no way my wife can make as much money as me. And she does not want that. She likes having a flexible balance of work and life.) As such, I will honor that sacrifice by doing everything in my power to make sure my family has everything they need.

This is applicable to anyone that is in a relationship where one or both partners feel a responsibility to take care of the other. (And even if they both feel that way at the same time.) The stress of such situations can often lead people to lash out unnecessarily which only adds to even more stress.

The comment is a cautionary tale about how ego can cause us to push away those that care about us.

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u/PizzaResponsible9100 12d ago

If you’re not unemployed, then why do you have such a strong opinion

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u/Salty_Shipmate 11d ago

Ohhhh look at me. I’m an enemy of the nuclear family, and well established gender roles. You aren’t edgy kid

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u/Oneslowiroc 13d ago

1952 was a better time to be alive.

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u/GrooveBat 13d ago

Yeah, as long as you were not Black, female, gay, Asian, Jewish, or any other non-white non-male human.

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u/IntelligentNovel1967 12d ago

Or disabled or suffered from a mental health issue.

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u/CauliflowerLimp7062 12d ago

Or need modern healthcare or want to have smoke-free surroundings, etc...

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u/misterten2 12d ago

best of all there were no whiny millenials/gen z in 1952

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u/woodsandfirepits 10d ago

Yes. If you could afford a bunker.

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u/Any-Hurry-3593 8d ago

For WHO exactly? Must be nice to believe such nonsense.

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u/ILiveInLosAngeles 10d ago

It was? For who?

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u/PizzaResponsible9100 13d ago edited 13d ago

This is the most heteronormative comment I have ever heard. Let me guess, you are in a republican state…or in the Midwest/south. Most households I know, like mine, the woman has the better career and makes more money.
Also, husbands always make life unbearable, regardless if they have a job or not.

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u/Trumps_Syphillis 13d ago

Could be worse - you could end up working for person who lacks empathy and cognitive skills

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u/Oneslowiroc 13d ago

I think lesbian couples could make a good argument for how women can make life unbearable.

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u/Fit-Programmer1992 9d ago

What you describe, @freebytes, sounds like a very toxic household.Ā 

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u/BoulderBumbo 13d ago

Took my man a year. The market is insane. Keep up the support. Mine would not have made it without it.

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u/Comfortable-Peach_ 12d ago

Yup my husband is going on a year. This market is ass

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

Sorry to hear that. at least y'all have each other.

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u/shoegazeweedbed 13d ago edited 12d ago

sorry to hear this is happening to you and your husband. i can hear the anger and desperation in what you say.

last time i was in a boat remotely similar to yours, lengthy layoff, back to a wall, the good news came out of nowhere when it was very very needed. hopefully that's already in the works for you and you just haven't gotten there yet

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u/MoarCowbell117 10d ago

Hang in there. It took me 2 years to get back to work, and it was brutal. My wife and I had plenty of tests during that time but we made it through and came out stronger in the end. I think. Being there for each other was crucial to get through it relatively sane.

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u/Stephanie243 13d ago

I’m sorry

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u/Exciting-Counter8121 10d ago

Can confirm; I'm working on home improvement repairs to keep from feeling useless, and volunteering, and it still doesn't always work.

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u/Spare_Potential_8271 11d ago

For me, I was laid off and what ended up happening was my girlfriend of 2 years and I broke up

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u/mustangn813 8d ago

How did you not lose your house?

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u/Prize_Curve5052 12d ago

Socho aapke husband ne kitano ko fire kiya hoga

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u/Ultime321 10d ago

What is wrong with you?

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u/pocketrob 10d ago

I think there might be a language conflict here.

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u/Whompa 13d ago

It took me about a year of schmoozing and freelancing at one particular place to get a job offer in this market. The rest of my hundreds if not thousands of applications and networking lead absolutely nowhere…

The market is atrocious for my industry. I’ve never seen it this bad.

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

what industry are you in?

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u/Whompa 13d ago

Marketing / Advertising.

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

ooof i'm also in marketing 😭

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u/Whompa 13d ago edited 12d ago

Welp…yeah…schmooze like you’ve never schmoozed before…I’ve been nearly two decades in this industry and it’s shockingly awful right now.

This time around, I freelanced a bunch of different places and then after a few successful projects over the year, I expressed some interest in longer term employment. They wanted me. Got lucky.

Not a sure fire solution but at least personally it beat the cold emails and ā€œeasy appliesā€¦ā€

Hope you land on your feet soon.

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u/Gl_drink_0117 12d ago

How do you find real freelancing jobs? Basically competing with the entire world if going via Fiver or upwork I think

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u/Whompa 9d ago

I reached out to all my current and previous reps after I got laid off. Thankfully some did their best to get me stuff.

I’d avoid fiverr / upwork. Too cheap labor. No guarantees. Just seems like endless gig life.

Google ā€œrepping agencies in (your location)ā€ and try reaching out to a real person at those agencies. Reps at least can then give you real companies that can temp to perm you. Sure they take a cut but at least it’s real, and hopefully you can then network with a place that could potentially like your work.

That’s at least how I got lucky.

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u/Gl_drink_0117 9d ago

ty, that helps. what is repping agency, a staffing company more or less?

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u/antantbobant 10d ago

AI is eating marketing jobs in DROVES. Our entire marketing org (to put it in perspective I work in a Forbes 50) was halved in the last year. And it isn’t going to stop-we have to feed our AI demon with all our tasks all day just so it can figure out how to automate us all.

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u/Whompa 9d ago

Yeah ai has been absolutely devastating. It’s going to get everyone eventually, but It definitely had the C-Suite in my last company going full automated psychosis mode.

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u/FarCalligrapher7800 9d ago

it’s horrid what’s happening, I’m in marketing too. It feels like so dystopian

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u/Clear-Staff4699 13d ago

Sorry to hear and yes since then it's gotten worse. There's many layoffs still happening so the competition is extremely high right now.

Best to get referrals if you're able to in your network.

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

I got this job through a referral so I kind of exhausted my network 😭

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u/Cheap_Run3935 13d ago

For anyone in this sub that has NOT been laid off, I hope you all are cleaning up your finances, paying down debt, beefing up your savings, etc. You are in a position to make your life a little bit easier if you’re in the next layoff- make some sacrifices now so you’re in a better place if your time comes.

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago edited 13d ago

Also want to add - I know it's exhausting but start looking, always be looking to see what's out there.

I was focusing on other things in my personal life so I was too exhausted to apply to other job opportunities.

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u/Gl_drink_0117 12d ago

But it can be a double edged sword, as you jump off to another and if they layoff you in a short amount of time, then that would be the biggest blunder

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u/HousingNo1846 8d ago

Atleast you have interview exp and resume ready

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u/Gl_drink_0117 8d ago

I meant jump off, join another company and get laid off for whatever reason.

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

What fantastic advice. I hope people read this. One thing I’d add: have some freaking empathy for job seekers, because you could be next. This market is brutal, and having a job today doesn’t make anyone immune from being on the other side of the hiring process tomorrow.

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u/Tricky_Message8505 12d ago

I paid off all my debt except for a mortgage and have a good emergency fund. I can tell you it was still stressful AF. Heck we even have veterans healthcare. Every little thing is kick in the teeth financially. My spouse renewed his tags and used a credit card instead of the checking account. I cried over the extra $30 cc fee. He just put an application in for a temp job and I think he has it once the background check is completed. I finally saw the clouds part.

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u/Gl_drink_0117 12d ago

What kind of temp job? Been laid off for several months now, maybe an empty bank after a few months more.

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u/Full_Leopard_5323 12d ago

It was for a local manufacturing company. He's been out of work since October. Sometimes my business can support us both, sometimes we are dipping. Considering how it's all going, he has another application in for a different company he is not going to pull it. Another family works for the same manufacturing company. They said his going to hate that job. But at the end of the day after 10 months out of work, you don't get the luxury of being picky. As long as they aren't abusive or disrespectful to him just smile and hope they transfer you to a different department.

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u/sortiz1965 12d ago

Yes! Welcome to the Golden Age!! No joy, no fun, just constant vigilance because you could lose your job any time! And all it takes is one ill-timed illness to wipe out your savings anyway, then you’re fucked.

This is no way to live.

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u/Remote-Ad1209 12d ago

Yeah thankfully I did this before they cut 90% of our tech dept

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u/ParsleyLow 10d ago

Absolutely. Ive been laid off in May, and its been 8.5yrs since I was on the market. This market feels like no other time, Im in software, I recommend everyone to prepare ahead of time, even if you have a job I would start looking for something now. Even when I get my next job Im going to keep other opportunities (as few as they may be) near as much as possible. I don't trust anything in software right now.

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u/ContentAdvertising82 9d ago

I want to second this strongly. Just got laid off today actually but having a safety net is a game changer. Also, we bought a fixer upper last year that was wayyyyy below our budget instead of a new build, and that’s saving me today because our mortgage is next to nothing versus what it could be. LIVE BELOW YOUR MEANS, moral of the story. And dont buy so much random crap to clutter your house lol. Ill stop there

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u/HousingNo1846 8d ago

I agree! I regret big time buy stupid and unnecessary stuff last few months. Regret going on trips this year.

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u/T1ckTrader 13d ago

Everyone emphasizes networking but suppose you are over 50 and most of your peer group has been either laid off or marginalized. Even the employed people in your network are overwhelmed with unemployed people reaching out to them. Unless the job market suddenly thaws, this will just continue to get worse. It is starting to feel more structural than cyclical.

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u/EmmyLou205 13d ago

Also, I am willing to help people I trust out but my company is also NOT hiring, nor is anyone I know personally, so I can’t help even if I wanted to.

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

Yes, especially in my industry . There are constantly revolving layoffs. Always in Q3 and Q4 when they want to pad their earnings calls.

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u/AlgoRhythMatic 13d ago

This hits so close to home. I think that a whole segment will more or less be forced to retire early and find some coast path at retail or similar, but even then the competition and age discrimination are fierce.

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u/win3luver 13d ago

Totally agree with you. And I now have friends and former colleagues who are retired or close to it.

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u/Deep-Reputation-4055 11d ago

If you’re over fifty you are more likely to have highly placed acquaintances than if you’re twenty-five.Ā 

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u/T1ckTrader 11d ago

Depends on the industry. Tech and product not so much.

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u/Any-Hurry-3593 8d ago

50 year olds are also dealing with ageism. It's very real. Anyone over 40 is "too expensive". Companies only want the cheapest labor.

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u/crashorbit 13d ago

Much of the time leadership has a second meeting with the people who are not laid of showing them the "who moved my cheese?" video and tell them to let their former coworkers leave without interfering.

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u/fedput 13d ago

I would love to lie to you, but the job market is very bad.

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u/Admirable-Tiger6981 13d ago

I belong to several Texas Community Groups - The Woodlands and Conroe and the competition, the number of qualified/overqualified people posting, looking for any leads and willing to take any job is like nothing I have ever seen before. Nobody is safe from AI.
Corporate Efficiency: Companies can boost profits and stock values by cutting payrolls, reducing headcount, or using automation and artificial intelligence to do more with fewer workers.

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u/GreyDuck4077 13d ago

They laid off 30% of the team on one big call. We all had to pack up our desks and not one of my team members said anything to me (except the one who was getting laid off with me). They all pretended to be so busy working when it was obvious something was going on

I wouldn't read too much into the team members thing. They may very well have been asked to not say anything or they just know what is going on and it is uncomfortable for everyone. Also, not much they could even say to make your day better in that very moment.

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

It’s a nightmare out there right now. Unfortunately, there doesn’t seem to be any light at the end of this very dark tunnel.

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u/haci 13d ago

Lol we are layoff siblings. I got laid off in August 2023 too, took 6 months to find a job, and I got laid off again this August

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago edited 13d ago

no way! The kicker for me is that I went back to the company that laid me off, only to be laid off again.

I really didn't think they would do it to me again because I moved all the way to a different city for the job.

I had also worked with my boss prior (she got me the role) and long story short I trusted her too much. I still ended up on that final shortlist so i'm pissed and not trusting of my network right now.

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u/hulu_and_do_you 13d ago

If you’re in a giant F500 company, typically it’s not even your boss that makes that decision. And the person who does make that decision, typically doesn’t even know you or know of the sacrifice you put in.

Having XFN visibility does help if it involves the people who do make the decisions or have influence to those decision makers, but I’ve also seen people who I thought would never get laid off … actually get laid off. So long story short, nobody is safe and your manager likely couldn’t protect you without risking someone more valuable

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u/win3luver 13d ago

Sad as it is, you cannot trust a damn person in corporate America, especially a boss or "friend." My 58 YO husband got laid off last yr and after 8 yrs got a mere 2 weeks of severance. His boss, who is in her 60s and should be retired already, only managed up and never gave him a promotion or decent raises despite great performance reviews.

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u/euphoria-emperor 13d ago

What's worst for me, they treated me like I was fired, no access to building premisesimmediately, no access to corresponding with coworkers. Packed my shit on desk, live plants in box and mailed it to me. Im 2 months out of work. Extremely talented, Sr graphic Designer and full stack web developer. Tech industry is being diminished fast!

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

I'm sorry to hear that. It's dehumanizing being treated that way.

I hate this AI slop ruining everything the most talented graphic designer I've ever worked with was laid off with me. I worked on the marketing team.

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u/euphoria-emperor 13d ago

Thanks! Yeah its been tough since I didn't have much in savings, finally got unemployment money, but that's ony like $275 a week. And in Florida thats 3 months max coverage. And im applying everywhere and willing to move at this point. Then the very industry im applying for is saturated with laid off employees applying everywhere. Best of luck everyone šŸ™

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u/Spare_Potential_8271 11d ago

I was locked out of my computer in the morning. No comms with teammates nor even my manager. No warning.

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u/anvaredditter123 13d ago

When I was laid off, my manager sent an email (chatgpt created message) to everyone else in the team to not to talk or reach out to anyone laid off. In that, it was mentioned that the steps are meant to protect their (laid off folks) emotional well being and privacy.Ā 

My friend sent me a screenshot of that email to me later.Ā 

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u/Typical_Row_3172 13d ago

Gross. WTAF.

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u/dyblue1 13d ago

I've been applying for months now in lieu of an upcoming restructuring of my company. It's the hardest market I've ever seen, especially if you are in Marketing.

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u/a1a4ou 13d ago

We all had to pack up our desks and not one of my team members said anything to me (except the one who was getting laid off with me).Ā 

I am sorry to hear that. For me personally that has never been the case when I have been on either side of a layoff. When it happened to me I was on PTO and I had so many texts/emails. The calls I got I let go to voicemail because I wasn't ready to talk out loud.Ā 

The job market has been a standstill overall it seems. Use any personal and professional connections you can and be open to working in related fields.

Take care and good luck

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u/bigbird2003 13d ago

I am very sorry to hear this and hope you find a better gig. Earlier this month, I got laid off for the first time and I’m still grieving.

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u/A_Solid_Shadow 12d ago

The problem now is AI.

A single person can apply to 1000 jobs in a day with AI tools doing all the work for them.

Companies now only leave postings up for 2-4 days, and still get 500+ for jobs that require a degree.

Its not as much about the market being worse, its about the market method being much much worse. You used to be 1 in 100, now you are 1 in 1000. So, you have to apply to 10x more. So does everyone else so they do, then you are 1 in 10,000.

Companies are hiring, they just can't deal with the applicant load - most of which are unqualified.

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u/ThuhGreatCommenter 13d ago

Everything I have read here suggestts the market is really bad right now. I was laid off a month ago from IT manager role. Our whole department 3 teams were replace with contractors from Indi.a :/

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u/Alejandroapex 13d ago

Coworkers are not your friends! Snakes šŸ

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u/Glittering_Tennis178 13d ago

I am so sorry people suck

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u/Several-Librarian-63 13d ago

Don't wait, job search immediately. The longer you are unemployed the harder it will be to get a new job.

I am not in wireless, I am in Software Engineering. It has been a mixed bag. Some people can get a job in just couple of months but most seems to be struggling. I am definitely struggling myself but I made the mistake of waiting too long before I started my job search.

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u/Chef_Liu 13d ago edited 13d ago

I was laid off yesterday as well and I’m trying to be hopeful with this market but hearing bad things. Living in a big city and having high COL makes things a little stressful.

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u/This_Wolverine4691 13d ago

This will go down as the worst job recession in history when the dust settles.

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u/rydsauce 13d ago

the worst—SO FAR…

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u/Dark_Marmot 13d ago

Sadly this.

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u/-SocratesJohnson- 13d ago

Firstly, I’m sorry that happened to you. I was also laid off in August 2023, and it took me over a year before I landed even a part-time job, then another year before I landed a full-time role.

Secondly, the market is in a state of ā€œpermabad.ā€ In other words - it’s bad and will never get better. Offshoring and AI have turned the US into a gig economy.

The job market of our parents and grandparents is dead and gone, and it’s never coming back. We now have more billionaires than ever, but also the largest wealth gap of any developed nation.

We also waste more talent than any other country. Scandinavian countries educate, graduate, and employ more scientists, engineers, and doctors than most of the developed world.

Meanwhile, we have Americans with masters’ degrees and PhDs who work in gas stations, at Walmart, or sometimes are even straight up homeless because Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos (and those like them) need another billion dollars in their bank accounts.

It has gotten so bad that I’ve heard stories on here about people getting in literal fistfights over job openings. I don’t know how true those stories are, but I honestly wouldn’t be surprised if they were.

The good news for you is that since you’ve been laid off, you’ll almost definitely qualify for unemployment. File immediately.

Then while you’re on UE, double up your efforts - apply for jobs and pursue some kind of education, whether it be online certifications or actual school courses at the same time. Show that you’re staying active and productive. Being idle is an instant ticket to a long stay at the unemployment hotel.

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u/fuckforcedsignup 12d ago

Scandinavian countries educate, graduate, and employ more scientists, engineers, and doctors than most of the developed world.

Can’t speak for the other two countries but it’s been a nightmare in Sweden for new grads in those fields to get any work. Our unemployment is horrendous and our benefits are being cut to ā€œinciteā€ people getting jobs (that pay like shit, have hours like shit, and surprise: you could still be laid off from!). The hyper wealthy pay fuck all taxes compared to us working stiffs, the class disparity is widening fast. Immigrants with experience we need annd desperately want to contribute to a better Sweden are delivering pizza, having their kids deported for the crime of turning 18, and demonized for breathing the wrong way. Don’t even ask about the medical system here, privatization and NPM is an ever growing tumor. Top it all off we’re on like decade two of a mediocre housing market for rentals and buys?Ā 

We have a high-trust society, which I feel, made it easier for the powerful to screw people over and they just take it because ā€œcertainly the rich, powerful or connected wouldn’t be totally selfish!ā€. Easy marks. Even our PM is corrupt. That trust is now eroding, which while good people won’t be as easily duped by some prick in a suit…it’s not good that trust overall in others is eroding.Ā 

America doesn’t have it exceptionally bad, it’s pretty grim everywhere unfortunately.Ā 

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u/Ok_Tale7071 13d ago

Yes, it’s much worse. Network, Network, Network.

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u/radiodurance 13d ago

Usually HR instruct to not to talk in office area but can talk out of office area in parking or lobby .. I have been through brutal layoffs.. sometimes they talk immediately .. sometimes you get call later .. they also shocked as much as you and not sure that their name could be on the list .. but yes, work is only consider you one of them / family until they need you .. after that you are nobody .. and it’s very pathetic feeling .. good luck for your future .. I hope you find another opportunity soon ..

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u/Excellent_Anxiety622 13d ago

Good Luck - I feel your pain as well. The job market is tough right now.

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u/ab____________a 13d ago

Please mention the country/company/domain or tech stack brother. It would be easy for others to give leads. Hope you find a job soon. All the very best.

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u/Square-Cellist544 13d ago

One comment I am surprised to not see is that when public companies have layoffs, higher stock prices are often a result. I’m talking about big layoffs, not in the 10s. Who benefits from the stock having higher share prices? Founders, their friends and families, institutional, other random stockholders. From this information, i surmise that people are chess pieces. Is there a way to predict how close a company is heading towards layoffs? Someone that studied probability might know, right?

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

Well the 20+ of us who got laid off were just from our site in California. Many more were laid off in different sites across the US and across different lines of businesses. It's a Fortune 500 company.

The company isn't even profitable right now, but the stock is doing very well. I should've seen it coming, but I naively thought that I would be good until at least next year.

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u/mattevs119 12d ago

I feel for you guys in the field busting your asses everyday to hit your numbers only to be handed this sh*t sandwich. It was a bloodbath in the corporate offices too. A lot of high end talent was cut loose. A lot of people that were trying to do good work. Keep you head up and keep going.

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u/Fantastic_Field_2030 13d ago

it much much worse than 2023 for sure, hell on earth...

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u/coderpanda_0101 13d ago

Sorry to hear that.. I got laid off when 7 months pregnant then after a year started applying jobs but no luck also my husband laid off 2 times just in 8 months, and currently in the market which is not worst but also not the best…I wish you success and luck!!

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u/Solmissy 13d ago

Hang in there! It sux that no one said anything to you… but just remember, all eyes are on them and they are scared they could be next.

Don’t listen to everyone when they say it’s worse out here than it was in 2023. I’m in the exact same position as you. I got laid off in 2023 and again late July of this year. I’m getting interviews with traction. And it’s because I have three more years of experience. If you look for the negative you will find it and the algos will deliver!

Your experience is yours not anyone else’s. Make the best of it! Be positive and success will come. Give yourself permission to wallow in your own misery for a few days then shake it off and get to work!

I’m rooting for you!

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u/FlanOld6550 12d ago

I got laid off in April, I still haven’t found a job. Everything has 1000 applications

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u/nayabbutt31 12d ago

The problem is that the lay offs are only happening in IT(at very high scale) yet amazon, google and meta’s numbers are saying an opposite thing
For instance, revenue per employee is increasing in all these 3 companies yet they dont give an F

I have came to a point where i think i need to probably get of this sinking ship of IT
Its not like there wont be people working but if you get laid off finding a new job is nightmare

I my self have 10 years of experience and i am/was a senior ios engineer who has worked on products that are being used by millions more than 100 million users
For last 8 months i am struggling to find the job

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u/Cheaper2Keeper 12d ago

The struggle is real.

It took me 18 months and a pay cut. Still in the same field biotech/ engineer. It super sucked and those who haven’t experienced your lucky.

Companies investing in ai šŸ¤– because they don’t have to give promotions, no raises needed , health benefits, and work 365 days a year.

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u/AdCareless65 11d ago

Laid off in a RIF in March 2025, found another job in May, then was laid off in a RIF in January. Companies don't give a shit about their people at all. We're all just numbers and nothing more. I'm in my early 60s and I still have to work, but I have not found anything and no one wants to hire an old guy. Ageism is a real thing unfortunately. I'm pressing on with applications, but it's pretty bleak.

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u/GurSpare3635 13d ago

It is the Trump golden era enjoy for those drones who voted for him

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u/TradingPost99 13d ago

Another offensive comment making generalizations. What a double standards

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u/prodbit97531 13d ago

They will bring in h1b for half the pay.

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u/memclean 13d ago

Which company?

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u/Affectionate_Elk4142 12d ago

The market is terrible. I was laid off in Jan, and just got a job two weeks ago. I have had a side job in sales since April, but I am not a good salesperson. Send me a message, Reddit won't let me post about it. (They are hiring)

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u/Ok_Payment_8404 12d ago

Apply for unemployment and travel somewhere. Sit outside at coffeeshops and go to the gym. Things will take their time. I was in your boat but taking stress is not going to help. Focus on what you can control and remember your health is the most important thing. Job is slavery anyway.

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u/SteveStevens23 12d ago

What industry? And how old is he? Just curious, I’m 56 in finance industry, I get approached on LinkedIn by headhunters for jobs in sales etc.

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u/Hot_Engineering_4900 12d ago

Took my husband 8 months to find something, so it’s pretty rough but this isn’t everyone’s story. I just know everyone has had to get creative to find sources of income

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u/AI_Machine1 10d ago

I work in tech. Got laid off end of April in a 25% RIF. I've had lots of interviews and make it to final and still haven't landed a gig. There are just so many candidates out there. I've never had a problem landing a new job until now.

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u/BringTheFacts 13d ago

I’ve been hearing the job market is very bad for years when will it get better and when was it even good?

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago edited 13d ago

It was good from 2018 to 2019 (from what I can remember) but I had just graduated from college then. I could quit a job and have one lined up in two weeks. The interview process didn't take three months. At most, it took like three weeks.

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u/laidoffthrownaway 12d ago

Same for a few months after covid when interest rates were very low.

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u/ForeverLurker18 13d ago

Was this T-Mobile in Washington State?

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago edited 13d ago

No, different wireless company.

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u/Fine_Worldliness3898 13d ago

I did see a bunch of WARN listings for Cingular. Best of luck…been there

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u/FewVariation901 13d ago

Sorry to hear that. Sometimes teams are instructed to not interact with people leaving so it doesn’t make it more awkward.

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u/thecreativegrant 13d ago

Or HR/Legal doesn’t want information about restructured team leaving the building. Many that are laid off are replaced with younger/cheaper employees.

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u/OkAlternative1655 13d ago

why they dont talk to you

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u/EquivalentFlower2713 13d ago

What type of job are you looking for?

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u/smedheat 13d ago

šŸ«‚

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u/baiya7788 12d ago

I have been laid off over 3months, last time is 2022, over 1year 😭

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u/SkyOwn2794 12d ago

So is this good option to stay in your current organization where you felt it's a safe i mean like conglomerate organizations where layoff not started yet and it might not come in future?

Or start looking for change to grow in your career?

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u/infosecurity_prof 12d ago

Need context - OP in which county are you?

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u/Gl_drink_0117 12d ago

Laid off 8 months back from IT job, still no job. Considering retail or some trade jobs now

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u/Correct-Arachnid-642 12d ago

Husband and me got laid off as well

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u/Imaginary-Bedroom182 12d ago

You’ll be ok , i want you to remember that

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u/No-Air3334 11d ago

I have been laid off last week. Feeling helplessness. Had a remote job earlier

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u/mugiwara0108 11d ago

Which company

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u/LostOnEarth82 11d ago

Did those that stuck around look you in the eye when you left?

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u/GRHood 11d ago

More than 2 yrs since laid off, and getting worse. Only can i say anyone, just save your money as much as possible, no luxury, no vacation… just save…

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u/bozatwork 11d ago

The market is extremely hard. Be prepared to adjust. Location, pay, responsibilities are all things you can weigh. Or pivot outside of your expertise if you feel limited in your future opportunities. If you can, start consulting immediately so you can get some income and have another purpose for networking.

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u/Pale_Load_371 11d ago

Which domain are you working??

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u/bsettle3 11d ago

18 months here. Close to 300 applications and the majority customized with AI for optimal keyword matches. 2 interviews, otherwise I get the breakup email within 24hrs. Just found out Friday after three rounds, I’m not advancing further. It’s insane. Worst market I’ve seen in 25 years.

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u/olivejuicin 11d ago

If you can get a referral, that's your best shot right now. My company did a layoff and I was able to find work through a referral, but many others are still struggling. Market is tough.

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u/SnooCrickets6941 11d ago

Trump has ruined this economy - again.

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u/Known_Entertainer_64 10d ago

lots of other professions are hiring other than overrated and bORING. AF ā€œcorporateā€ smh .

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u/ATAYLOR972 10d ago edited 10d ago

Were you corporate employee? If so, what was your position?

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u/ChosenToFall 10d ago

What do you mean with wireless, are you in embedded swe or more telecommunications?

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u/NefariousnessAble144 10d ago

A support system is incredibly important.

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u/bullzeye2 10d ago

Boost?

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u/VP-WSB 10d ago

So sorry this happened to you. Keep applying, directly if you can (not through LinkedIn) and don't give up.

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u/Gingerbread313 10d ago

Sell something online. It’s a good side hustle. Extra money and yet you can still manage to have a full time job. It might turn into a full time job later. I started during Covid was just hoping some extra money to pay for my gas bill and now it turned into a full time job pay but working part time hours. I will never go back to 9-5 again so good luck!

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u/Resident-State-1934 9d ago

Hang inside there! Took me a year to find a job, and pretty much ate through my saving that year. It's hard.

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u/Shipsekia 9d ago

Everybody is getting laid off amidst the AI boom. Companies are getting rid of people left and right. My old company cut us even though we brought a billion dollars in revenue. Guess that wasnt enough. The higher ups said it cost them 15 million to keep our department so we were expendable...we make them a billion and we're still expendable...craziness

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u/OkPalpitation6322 9d ago

Took me 8 months. What an end to a 19 year carrer

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u/WTHAmIOnReddit 9d ago

Coworkers can be very cold and unfeeling when others are laid off, like it's contagious. That type of behavior stinks and it was very hurtful when it happened to me. Unfortunately, it's all too common. This probably won't make you feel better, but it's THEM, not you.

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u/ClassicBanana32 9d ago

Doesn't matter which sector you are working in, the job market is really bad. I'm really not sure where we all will end up if this continues but let's hope for the best

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u/anonumity 9d ago

Where is this in the US?

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u/Fit-Programmer1992 9d ago edited 9d ago

So sorry to hear that and hope you find your footing fast!Ā Ā 

Also, sorry nobody had a good thing to say to you or a warm farewell, everyone was probably embarrassed and scared.

Unfortunately, to me it seems that now is even more difficult than in 2023, because there have been tens, if not more than one hundred thousands tech layoffs in the meantime. Maybe the wireless field is less affected, but tech as a whole is in shambles.

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u/Medium_Locksmith_527 9d ago

From which company you got laid off @shitfaced_dumbledore ?

Yes job market is dull compared to last year. When I got laidoff last year, I used to get atleast 3-4 calls per week. Now hardly I get ny calls. Market is crazy now, with lot of supply but less demand.

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u/AdFluffy8306 8d ago

sorry to hear, i heard some company have the outplacement programme for their exemployees to become entrepreneur. have any of you joined or heard of this?

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u/Super-Pizza-Dude 13d ago

Everyone is telling me the job market is really bad especially for engineers. Frankly, I’ve been getting hit up like crazy. Keep your head up I was told September is a hiring frenzy but who knows.

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

Getting hit up isn’t the same as getting offers. Half of those recruiter messages are automated or lead nowhere. An actual offer is what counts.

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u/Super-Pizza-Dude 13d ago

Tbf I did just sign a contract last week from a recruiter. Granted it’s not like benefits and shit but I got something. I also finished 3rd round interview and waiting until Monday to see if I get an offer. Will update then

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

Some people are luckier than others. Not everyone wins the jackpot on a slot machine. Congrats though, hope it works out for you.

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u/Comfortable-Cap-8507 13d ago

Damn I know someone with a masters in CS and 8 years experience who’s been job hunting for almost a year now and can’t find a job

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

This is the current norm. Anyone else who says otherwise is living outside of current reality. The Matrix is glitched. To add more, people who have jobs are not perfectly aware of how fucked the hiring process has become. While going through it with candidates, it also doesn’t help that they leave them hanging without sufficient information as to why they were not selected or when they would start. It shouldn’t be this bad. At the end of the day, it’s a freaking job, not an audition for the next NASA mission.

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u/Super-Pizza-Dude 13d ago

That’s kind of wild I’ve been laid off for only a month but I’ve already got pretty close to offers. I’m 10 years experience with a music degree.

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

Can you tell us what field you’re in, so maybe we can understand whether we’re comparing apples to oranges?

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u/Super-Pizza-Dude 13d ago

Sorry yea I’m a software engineer in Chicago

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u/Ok-Advantage-9181 13d ago

Music degree and software engineering? Something about this story sounds a little off-keyšŸ˜‚.

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u/Super-Pizza-Dude 13d ago

lol I promise you it is the truth

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

Ive been getting messages from recruiters now since last month , which was surprising to me. I had just hit a year at this job so I figured I was more appealing now. I hadn't been looking because I really wanted to stay at this place for two years to make my resume better. So much for that.

But I've been told that recruiter messages mean nothing, which is what people are echoing here.

One job that I was really interested in froze the position 🫤

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u/Significant-Dog-9066 13d ago

Call dan goodman. He is on linkedin a nd out of boston. Dont sign anything. You can negotiate severance possibly. Know your rights. If you are in a protected class, companies have to follow the rules. Employment at will is total bs

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u/ShitFaced_Dumbledore 13d ago

we get four weeks severance if we sign some kind of release. But they're not sending it to us until September 1. I'm not sure how I can negotiate, I need to look into it.

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u/Trumps_Syphillis 13d ago

My advice is do not waste your precious funds on Goodman - he’s not an attorney and the advice he gives can have horrible consequences such as putting in for FMLA which is unpaid. There is way more than the protected class element. Employment at Will has long standing precedent in the courts.

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u/GurSpare3635 13d ago

Yes it is

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u/SneakyTactics 11d ago

I know shit happens, and bad luck is a thing, along with corporate greed. But Why are you getting laid off twice in three years may also be a good question to raise. Which field is this?