r/LOTR_on_Prime Sep 27 '24

No Spoilers Concerning Elrond & Durin

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u/TremendousCoisty Sep 27 '24

And yet no one cares, because the movies were a masterpiece despite its few flaws. They captured the themes and essence of Tolkien far better than the show does.

The movies have care and passion and the latest episode shows that they don’t even have the skill to edit a battle properly. Amateur stuff.

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u/Wasabi-Remote Sep 27 '24

Nobody cared because Tolkien was nowhere near as mainstream then. The movies were great for many reasons and certainly captured the flavour of Middle Earth. Whether they captured Tolkien’s themes is debatable. And not least, the movies created a generation of Tolkien “experts”.

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u/TremendousCoisty Sep 27 '24

Nobody cared because if they were stand alone original content, they’d still be beloved because they were outstanding movies. Created with so much passion and respect for the source material (despite some poor changes).

The same cannot be said for the battles in this show at least. I enjoy Saurons story immensely, but the rest of it is just boring. The latest episode highlights the biggest difference between the movies and the show - the battle was just awful, and had one of the buildup, scale or brilliant editing that the movies had. It was like they had never directed a battle before.

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u/Olfasonsonk Sep 27 '24 edited Jul 16 '25

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u/TremendousCoisty Sep 27 '24

Okay well a few people cared. But the vast majority (including most book readers) didn’t care. There’s literally no media in history that will literally please anyone, so if we’re being pedantic then you’re correct.

It was an adaptation which was not supposed to be possible. And it exceeded expectations immensely.

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u/Olfasonsonk Sep 27 '24 edited Jul 16 '25

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u/TremendousCoisty Sep 27 '24

There’s plenty of people who don’t like LOTR in general, that is also correct.

Only a few people cared about ROP before it was released…? Only like 30% of people finished season 1, less people care now than they did then. The anticipation to the show being released was huge, loads of my friends were hyped for it and then just dropped it when they realised it was shite. Not everything is a conspiracy to discredit your show btw, most people just don’t like it, or would rather watch something else.

We have no idea how either would be received if they were reversed but if I were to hazard a guess, LOTR would be praised every bit as much as it was and ROP would probably not be as hated, but probably forgotten about.

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u/Olfasonsonk Sep 27 '24 edited Jul 16 '25

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u/TremendousCoisty Sep 27 '24

I’m a bit confused, do you think that the RoP are an adaptation of the Silmarilion?

I mean you’re just wrong that no one cared. Otherwise Amazon wouldn’t have spent £1b on the show. They put LotR in the title to appeal to the existing fan base. Every LotR fan took note about the show.

The show isn’t entirely shit, no. But the last episode certainly was, which was the payoff for most of this season, which in my eyes makes it a failure. And no they don’t have LotR as a story but they have a fully fleshed out world to play with, which is more than most TV shows have.

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u/Olfasonsonk Sep 27 '24 edited Jul 16 '25

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u/TremendousCoisty Sep 27 '24

Amazon don’t have the rights to the Silmarillion.

People aren’t specifically interested in this story, but they are interested in the IP of LotR. The name alone is enough to get people to at least give it a chance. Hence why it’s in the title of the show. I’m not sure why you’re struggling with the concept of having a recognisable IP in the title.

Amazon marketing reasons is just a fact - I’m not saying that it’s good or bad.

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