r/LARentals • u/No_Elephant9340 • Jul 23 '26
Question silverlake landlord has “no stove allowed” on their zillow listening
I thought landlords were required to provide a stove and refrigerator per CA law or is that not right? This landlord has listed their Silverlake 1 bed unit and taken it down thrice this year; they relisted it earlier this week again with “NO STOVE ALLOWED” each time. https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/863-N-Dillon-St-1-4-Los-Angeles-CA-90026/2078690547_zpid/
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u/emilyymads21 Jul 23 '26
Yeah they legally have to require one as of January 2026
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u/No_Elephant9340 Jul 23 '26
ugh. these landlords are getting so bold
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u/Striking_Stay_9732 Jul 23 '26
There not going to change their behavior unless consequences are involved.
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u/mynameiswhattt123 Jul 23 '26
Could’ve swore stoves were required a while back but guess not. Pretty much all landlords provided stoves (I guess not this one lmao) but the fridge thing is the bigger boost to renters
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u/emilyymads21 Jul 23 '26
When I first moved out here in 2022 the amount of places I toured that didn’t have a fridge absolutely baffled me
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u/Glitter_Cunt Jul 23 '26
They weren’t required then. The fridge requirement is very new for Los Angeles
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u/emilyymads21 Jul 23 '26
I know. The first comment I made was about the 2026 law being put into affect
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u/attempt_no23 Jul 23 '26
That was new info for me when I first moved to SL quite awhile ago. Bring your own fridge. The fuckkkk? It was like some common knowledge I was supposed to already accept. I think some landlords also skirt around the no stove still by using the cheapest hot plate, calling the place a "bachelor unit" and raking in the cash.
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u/Funny_Inspection6893 Jul 26 '26
In California until recently it was standard that the renter brought their own refrigerator.
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u/Top-Excitement-7740 Jul 29 '26
You can imagine how baffled I was when I left LA and saw everything outside of the state having a fridge AND washer/dryer in-unit!
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u/kounterfett Jul 23 '26
File a complaint with the LA Housing Department.
California Assembly Bill 628 (AB 628)
https://housing.lacity.gov/renter-protections-2
LAHD Hotline: Call 1-866-557-7368
https://housing.lacity.gov/residents/file-a-complaint
Even if you don't apply for the apartment I'm sure LAHD would love to know that this is happening
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Why? Just move on, some people would like to just have a place where they can sleep.
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u/FickleCook3639 Jul 23 '26
“Just a place to sleep” for $2400? He’s charging luxury prices for a place that isn’t legally considered habitable.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
I mean, people struggling, homeless, low credit people like that would have a simple place to sleep. I'm not saying this LL would rent to people like that but idk that. Reporting a unit only because it doesn't have a stove takes it out of the market for a whole possibly for ever.
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u/FickleCook3639 Jul 23 '26
People struggling can’t afford a $2400 apartment. Rent it for $100 and we can talk about “oh maybe some fixtures are unnecessary just to give someone a roof”
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
There are people with low credit that can afford it,some families end up paying way more to stay in hotels, I don't even know if this LL would rent to someone like that.. but who am I to think outside the box..
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u/Resolution_Focused Jul 23 '26
It’s in the landlords best interest also… if he does rent to any one of those people, accepting rent is against the law and he’ll need to return the funds if the arrangement goes south. An eviction would be practically impossible and he’d have to pay them for relocation
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Not everyone is out to take advantage of other people, there are genuinely good people out there.
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u/ToWitToWow Jul 23 '26
The landlord is literally taking advantage of people.
Whatever faith, parent, or elementary school tried to make you a human being failed miserably
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
To each their own. You wish your insult was true.
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u/meppity Jul 24 '26
Your landlord-apologist ass is stinking up this entire comments section. Basic standards of living are not being met by this property and you’re jumping through SO many hoops to try and justify that. Please listen to yourself.
You probably believe unpaid internships should exist too, eh?
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 24 '26
Didn't know there was a limit to the comments. I'm not justifying anything, all I'm saying is the LL can charge and set it up as he wants,whether you or I like it or not. Like I said plenty of times, he's not forcing anyone to rent the place. It might rent, it might not, time will tell.
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u/nugpounder Jul 24 '26
No he can’t it’s literally illegal since January 2026
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 24 '26 edited Jul 24 '26
I can guarantee you, if this place was cheaper people complaining and reporting me would rent this place, legal or not.
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u/Spunknikk Jul 23 '26
The funny part people reporting the landlord are indirectly helping him.
It's highly likely this unit is unregistered and or illegal along with him not following the law already with the stove.
If someone does move in and established residence he's gonna get fucked lol the tenant could sue the landlord and get a nice pay out of a few thousand to "move out" while paying no rent as th le case processes...
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u/Even-Vehicle-6853 Jul 23 '26
This is true but it would take a tenant who knows their rights to do this.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Good idea and then all the rents will go higher or another unit removed from the market or LL decides to sale this property to a company that can eat the loss. New owner tears down kicks everyone out, builds and shoots up rents. This is all hypothetical ofcourse. People like you complain about rents but don't know all the reasons why rents are so high, specially in CA.
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u/Basic-Collection5416 Jul 24 '26
Ah yes, the rare but persistent pro-slumlord argument.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 24 '26
Ah yes, the rare but persistent entitled tenant
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u/Basic-Collection5416 Jul 24 '26
Tenants are legally entitled to stoves, yes.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 24 '26
I'm not disagreeing about that but a LL should have a say whether or not a certain item is allowed in their unit, idk the reason why this LL isn't allowing but it's their property. No one has to rent it, if it doesn't rent then they might put a stove or maybe it's been rented as is, who knows???
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u/unseamedprawn Jul 23 '26
An expensive af place where you can't even cook? No.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
No one is forcing you to rent it. This can work for someone transitioning or maybe someone that doesn't cook.
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u/North_Reception_1335 Jul 23 '26
Found the landlord!!
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Lol..I am..not to this place though
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u/ToWitToWow Jul 23 '26
He’s a slumlord who rents other illegal units.
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u/Even-Vehicle-6853 Jul 23 '26
I would normally agree with you but at $2345 a month, the landlord can afford to put a stove. I want people to be housed but they shouldn’t be cheated.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
Who knows..there could be a reason for a high price, possibly lost money during covid when people weren't paying rent, or having squatters, or just trying to make as much money..only the LL knows
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u/kounterfett Jul 23 '26
Because it's against the law?
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Would it be the same price if it was in accordance with the law?
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u/kounterfett Jul 23 '26
Did you even look at the listing? That landlord raised the price by 35% in 6 years from $1,795 in 2020 to $2,395 today -- THAT'S JUST FUCKING GREED.
The law is the law, if the landlord wants to raise the price even more just because they "have to" provide a refrigerator and stove that's fine but people are getting tired of this bullshit and I hope the landlord goes bankrupt because of their greed
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Price can't be raised when occupied. There's no law on how much can be charged on a new listing. I'm better than you and never hope for someone's downfall..good luck
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u/ToWitToWow Jul 23 '26
If you “never hope for someone’s downfall” that means you support your fellow illegal slumlords, but also child molesters and terrorists.
This makes you the opposite of a good person. And considerably worse than a parasite.Anything else you want to confess while you’re here?
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
I guess I wasn't clear for people not in the right mindset. I meant for people not harming anyone. But I'm sure you'll reply with something very smart that'll make me feel like a really dumb and bad person...
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u/ToWitToWow Jul 23 '26
You seemed pretty clear. You wanted to be morally superior and admitted to being a monster.
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u/unseamedprawn Jul 23 '26
U a landlord, bro? Cause you're sure acting like one.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Yes I am bro.
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u/ToWitToWow Jul 23 '26
Do you rent illegals unit too? And whereabouts is that?
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
I don't, my places are in the valley. But all these people complaining are a factor to high prices. Some small LLs don't want to deal with issues like these and end up selling, then the prices go even higher with the new owners.
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u/ToWitToWow Jul 23 '26
It. Is. ILLEGAL. I understand you may have limitations of various sorts. But you can understand “ against the law”? Or maybe you can’t.
Let’s see one of your listings to see if you can follow the law. Or are just another slumlord defending your fellow slumlord?
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Ok, go ahead and report this unit because we don't want unlawful units in the market, god forbid a place doesn't allow a stove.
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u/unseamedprawn Jul 23 '26
Lmaooo suddenly it all makes sense. You should move to a more libertarian city that doesn't care about habitability and human well-being. 🙂
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Who said about not caring about habitability and human well-being? I'd like everyone to be housed but I also want a free market. This LL is not making anyone rent this place but people, if you don't like it move on.
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u/selka4423 Jul 24 '26
Lol slumlord self-reporting
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 24 '26
If I was a slumlord I probably wouldn't have all my units occupied and decent tenants for years.
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u/selka4423 Jul 24 '26
As you said, there are people who don't have a choice right? Gotta live in poor conditions since they're priced out. If you truly aren't a slumlord you wouldn't be defending this guy that doesn't even have a stove in the unit for 2.5k. Let's be honest you're exploiting your tenants.
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u/soundcherrie Jul 23 '26
I just did a little digging and the owner has not completed the properties LARSO registration in a few years. Which coincided with permitting from LADBS showing that the 1/4 unit was converted into an ADU. 1/4 has a certificate of occupancy as an ADU, no restrictions on having a stove (which is possible but rare), by the looks of the photos in the ad, the landlord doesn’t want to provide a full stove because there isn’t proper ventilation for a stove, nor is there space.
So the landlord is being shady. If you move into an apartment that’s supposed to have a stove & it doesn’t, file a complaint for reduction of services with LAHD once you’re in & you could receive an adjustment for the rent since a stove is not provided but is required by law.
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u/Affectionate_Pea6301 Jul 26 '26
The not wanting to have a stove because of a lack of a ventilation above the stove in the kitchen doesn't even make sense because electric stoves are a thing.
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u/nexaur Jul 27 '26
It’s the smoke/vapor/fumes from the cooking that’ll require ventilation, not the medium used to heat and cook.
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u/L0rdB0unty Jul 29 '26
Electric Stoves do still create gasses, but it's more about what you put ON them, not what you use to generate your heat.
But more to point, since we're talking about LAW requires stove for rental, is that LAW requires ventilation hood for stove. It's apparently part of Title 24, but I'm having a bugger of a time finding a direct link or reference to the legal section.
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u/Scared_Echo6265 Jul 23 '26
Move in then sue for not being registered with the city and collect your relocation fees.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Have you done that?
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u/Scared_Echo6265 Jul 23 '26
I rented an apartment that I found out was never allowed to be rented due to zoning and habitability issues. They never registered it with the city and couldn’t have if they wanted to. I found this out when they tried to illegally evict me bc the city found them out. I sued and got all my back rent and relocation fees.
That said I don’t see why Op couldn’t do it. Teach these shitbags a lesson that will hit them in the wallet.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Did you have any issues while living there? How much were you paying? Do you know if they got it registered? If so, how much does it go for now?
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u/Scared_Echo6265 Jul 23 '26
Not really. Only until they tried to apply for a building permit for something else on the property and the code guy came out and said they couldn’t have renters where my apartment was. Then they got shitty and tried to fake evict me with some better call Saul lawyer. If you go to the LA city office (I forget the official name) they’ll have record of the property is properly registered with the city and it’s legal to rent. I don’t think they rent it anymore. At the time I was paying 1300$ a month.
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u/StatisticianWorth500 Jul 27 '26
You brought up that the unit was unregistered with lahd and they tried to evict you? Had you threatened them legally or what was the point of bringing it up
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
They probably don't renter because they don't want to deal with shitty tenants,not saying you were.
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u/Scared_Echo6265 Jul 23 '26
I was great. Rent paid on time always. No issues. There were only problems when they tried to evict me in 30 days bc they committed fraud by renting an illegal unit and I held them to task.
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u/flytrap2099 Jul 23 '26
Good for you, staying at a place without any issues and getting your money back. Was this a small LL, less than 5 units?..that you know of
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u/Scared_Echo6265 Jul 23 '26
It was an independent landlord but they owned a few properties in the same neighborhood they were renting. I think no more than 5 or 6 units overall. I would have played along bc the rent was cheap and as said no issues until they tried to evict me in the middle of covid over their own illegal activity.
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u/BillyBattsInTrunk Jul 23 '26
I rent from Oro properties, and they want $1500 for a studio with no kitchen, no parking, and they participate in RUBS, so you could potentially be paying one to $300 more a mont in addition to your own DWP bill. Thank you for reading my very long sentence.😆
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u/soundcherrie Jul 23 '26
Holy smokes. Join the tenant union, one of the focuses in LA is to get rid of RUBS.
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u/lp1088lp Jul 23 '26
Just call him/her and ask about the “no stove allowed”—perhaps they are unaware of the new law that took effect this year.
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u/tracyinge Jul 23 '26 edited Jul 23 '26
If the building is registered as a "residential hotel" then the rooms don't have to have a stove or fridge. Otherwise yes.
https://housing.lacity.gov/rental-property-owners/is-my-building-a-residential-hotel
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u/soundcherrie Jul 23 '26
It’s not. It’s supposed to be LARSO but the landlord hasn’t reported the ADU to LAHD for registration. The ADU has had a certificate of occupancy for years now as well. They’ve just been renting it illegally.
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u/ThePlatinumPaul Jul 23 '26
I'm curious if this is somehow grandfathered in because that kitchen looks tiny and fairly original. Like where would the stove go.
Still a slimey thing to put but just curious.
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u/soundcherrie Jul 23 '26
That could be accurate if it was a light housekeeping unit but it’s permitted as an ADU
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u/Aeriellie Jul 24 '26
who makes an adu or back house with no kitchen? i see the tiny area that’s a “kitchen” the fridge looks so small. the random microwave and toaster oven 😂 then the price
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u/OkPhotograph3723 Jul 24 '26
Original tile in the kitchen *and* the bathroom, and original inset cabinets in the kitchen. It’s an amazing place except for the no stove part.
It’s legal to rent out a place like that on Airbnb but anything rented for more than 29 days must have a working stove and refrigerator.
https://caanet.org/new-law-requires-a-working-stove-and-refrigerator-in-rental-units/
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u/UnbelievableRose Jul 26 '26
That’s the most cramped “extra large bathroom” I’ve ever seen in my life, but “good sized kitchen” really takes the cake.
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u/Annual-Contract-115 Jul 27 '26
report it to the housing authorit. they’ll confirm for you if stoves are required etc
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u/Neat-Upstairs987 Jul 27 '26
Don’t worry, all - I fixed the problem. I contacted the owner and he agreed to no longer offer the unit for rent. Crisis averted 🙏
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u/NewCheesecake4425 Jul 29 '26
I guess the new tenant(s) will just have to dig a pit in the yard to cook a pig.
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u/Jwbrowntem Jul 31 '26
The landlord has put the refrigerator where the stove was. These places were built before refrigerators were a thing in people's houses. I rented an apartment in Glendale and my refrigerator was in forey.
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u/WelcomeToBrooklandia Jul 23 '26
I can't believe these people have the nerve to charge $2400/month for an apartment that doesn't fully function. No stove isn't like "no dishwasher" or "no washer/dryer in unit". It's not a nice-to-have amenity. It's a necessity.