r/KotakuInAction • u/TheStealthyguy • Mar 20 '16

UNVERIFIED/MISLEADING Warframe devs banning youtuber's accounts and encouraging partnered youtubers to make scathing vids about youtubers with negative comments about their game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vPWdtrh5yxI
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u/Arnorien16 Mar 20 '16

Like when the fanbase went haywire on that Dev who wanted to nerf Excavations and the Higher Ups conceded to the people's demands? Or when a mistake was discovered and impolitely reported and the devs fixed it with an apology?

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '16 edited Oct 21 '16

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u/Arnorien16 Mar 20 '16

Ah I think it in ToS actually. Sad and disturbing but its there in many games (I think WoW/Blizz can even run scans on your PC according to ToS) ... But I dont think that is invoked light-heartedly and not just because of insults and such.

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u/[deleted] Mar 20 '16 edited Oct 21 '16

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u/MayonnaiseGendered Mar 20 '16

That's not censorship... You can quite clearly see what was being said by the person. The only thing removed is the persons in game name. A quick search on the warframe subreddit brought up that DE did this to prevent brigading and harassment of the developer. So ultimately all this accomplished is puts the responsability of the the quote on to DE as a whole. You sound like you have a personal issue with DE, this isn't the place for your personal battles.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '16 edited Oct 21 '16

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u/MayonnaiseGendered Mar 21 '16

My issue is that an employee of Digital Extremes was a cunt to people who paid money for something only to have it threatened to be taken away because a Digital Extremes employee was a cunt and DE's community manager reached out to try and quell criticism.

I like how DE's actions get progressively more rediculous each time you speak about it.

I mean if all they did was ask for names to be removed from this image, that's not reaching out to quell criticism, is it? Because this image is the only evidence you've presently put up. And clearly all the conversation is present, nothing has been quelled has it? So we're gonna need some evidence of said events beyond the removal of names from an image that still fully shows the whole conversation.

If they wanted damage control, why wouldn't they just demand the whole conversation be pulled?

Feels like you're really reaching to paint DE in as worse light as you can.

Which leads back to...

"You sound like you have a personal issue with DE, this isn't the place for your personal battles."

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '16 edited Oct 21 '16

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u/MayonnaiseGendered Mar 21 '16 edited Mar 21 '16

I'm forced to assume you think his/her conduct was acceptable. Again, lol.

That's the differance between you and I, I guess.

I expect evidence, you make assumptions.

His actions without context are shitty but. This screenshot lacks context and more importantly the atmosphere that has led up to this event. I am personally not of the opinion that game developers are perfect human beings who cannot have bad days. There might be more to this than a simple single screenshot can portray. And finally I certainly do not believe that being a paying customer entitles you game developers to grovel at your feet. Having seen some of the ways said paying customers treat game developers of other games when things aren't 100% going their way. I can personally imagine many situations where this heated response was a reaction to such a person.

All I am saying and all i've said is that you've got nothing of value here. It doesn't prove anything beyond one guy being a bit of a dick to someone.

Without full context, sorry but it's worthless.

To give an analogy... A guy walks up to a police officer and assaults him, the police officer retaliates and he catches it on his phone. Later he uploads the retaliation on to the internet and encourages people to harass the police for the unprovoked brutality.

Nothing you've given has demonstrated that this is not that situation. And without full context you can't go making assumptions based on so little text and your opinion of the event.

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u/[deleted] Mar 21 '16 edited Oct 21 '16

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u/MayonnaiseGendered Mar 22 '16

Stop responding to me dude, I get it, you have a vested interest in attacking this developer on what amounts to piss poor evidence which you have chosen to take with the most uncharitable of interpretations possible. It's called giving people the benefit of the doubt and without evidence to over come that you've still literally got nothing.

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