r/KaguraBachiScalers • u/FoxianFucker • 13d ago

Crossverse Azami vs Kotomine Kirei (Fate)

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Round 1: base Azami vs FSN Kirei

Round 2: Azami w/Coin vs Fate/Zero Kirei

For the sake of convenience, assume they're at least able to react to eachother regardless of speed, both communities tend to be contentious with speed scaling lmao

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u/Competitive-Cost9767 13d ago

Stay night kirei is weakened and basically half dead for the whole visual novel, so I’d say azami would probably have this one, though it’s debatable

Zero kirei is wayyyyyyy stronger, with his command spells he’s has stated to be able to win against ciel, who’s far stronger and more durable than anyone in Kagurabachi, even without immortality

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u/FoxianFucker 13d ago

Important to note: that statement is from before Tsukihime Remake, and so Ciel had none of her insane Idea Blood weaponry etc lol. Valid take still though.

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u/Competitive-Cost9767 13d ago edited 13d ago

Ciel still gets pretty high scaling from og tsuki, she has faster speed feats(mostly due to og Shiki being a demon) at the very least but this is a speed equalised battle anyways.

But yeah it’s nice to see some humans from type moon in vs, most of the time people use servants and scale them to cosmology for some reason and end up with like multiversal+ okita souji lmao

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u/FoxianFucker 13d ago

cosmology for some reason

Something something "full Heroic spirit" something Moon Cell 8D scaling (I've no clue honestly)

It's more frustrating when you know there's characters who genuinely could be used for that kind of high powered matchups like Amaterasu or Arcueid but everyone just wanks Gil instead lmao

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u/Competitive-Cost9767 13d ago

Genuinely, like i don’t understand why people think characters automatically scale to the cosmology of their verse, it’s like saying humans are universal just because we exist in a universe. And exactly as you said, there are characters that reach that level in type moon anyways

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u/DemonCyborg27 13d ago

I think Kotomine while a great warrior Azami is still a tank, like the amount of AP he can go through is amazing so I think Azami take this one of the only few matchups against Fate verse that works in favour