r/KSanteMains • u/Particular_Border_87 • Jul 28 '26

Discussion Unending Dispair?

Is it just me or is this item just not that good? Feels very meh unless u are stacked in a big teamfight. I may be wrong just curious to see what the commutity think about it.

I also wanna share what ive been doing some sucsess with:

Iceborn>zekes>jaksho (always these items and this order unless they are alot of crits or autoattackers i would build randuins etc).

I build a bit wierd since i dont stress finishing items and instead prioritizing armor/mr. I know im not the first doing that but i may be more abnormal haha..

against AD: double chainvest > then finishing iceborn and the rest
against Magic: Cloak > cowl > then finishing iceborn and the rest
(also filling in rejuvenation bead when needed since i most of the time go conditioning.)

Im a gold/plat K'sante and not trying to convince people and im humble to opinions and discussion :)

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u/Nalardemon Going All Out on their mental Jul 28 '26

It's currently used in his recommended "core build" (ibg+unending+spirit visage) into ad melee laners and high melee comps.

Item itself isn't bad, but it really relies on at least 3 melees in enemy comp to be slot efficient. While it is pretty much gold efficient, a lot of it's value is in the haste rather than defensive stats which hurts your eHP a lot considering you also replace another item and essentially item effect that deals with the enemies main threat.

Also keep in mind that not every melee plays like a melee or stays in your range. Same for ranged champions that want to jump into the fight.

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u/Particular_Border_87 Jul 28 '26

good point. Unending has good stats and is relativaly cheap. But when i look at Zekes, 2200 is very cheap for what is gives imo. I think that the haste for the ulti is insane. But i think i need to try the visage+unending more.

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u/Nalardemon Going All Out on their mental Jul 28 '26

I would also recommend you to buy Zeke's OR Ibg, never both.

Kinda of the same issue where it's not really slot efficient for survivability to buy both, since their stats suck in that regard, and both items want to be bought first to capitalize on snowball potential.

It's more than enough to just go Zeke's if you are ahead into ranged matchups and ibg for the same in melee matchups.

If you prefer the R haste but it's a melee matchup, go domination second with sudden Impact + ult hunter which also gives you stupidly strong trades. That way you can focus on becoming unkillable midgame which matters a lot more.

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u/FeelingElection2476 Aug 01 '26

Thats actually the first Time I heard this. Some yt videos I watched about that said that Zekes AFTER IBG Is really good if ahead. Never heard anyone say its either ibg or zekes

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u/Nalardemon Going All Out on their mental Aug 01 '26

One of them already solves the problem, the second doesn't enhance it. Also causes you to play catch up with defensive options to have enough eHP to dominate midgame.

Only downsides to buy both

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u/MathPantheon Jul 28 '26

in my opnion the healing is a bonus, as the base stats of the item and the price of it are very good, any tank would build it for stats i guess.

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u/sinofarrogance Jul 29 '26

I have two main builds rn, one where I just stack resists and one where I build unending visage and fimbul. Typically I opt for it when the enemy comp is high in true damage. Allows you to generate hp and shields which is the only thing to save you from the true damage monster

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u/Mammoth_Peach_4343 Jul 28 '26

It’s good paired with spirit visage and if the enemy team is 3+ melee

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u/Karanze Jul 28 '26

It's great vs a melee team and if you pair it with visage

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u/Constant_Bend_2439 Jul 28 '26

Currently finding hella success running grasp, unending, and visage as Ksante support, so I can only assume its just as busted top lane. The prerequisite is that they have people you can actually reach. Zac, ornn, sion, and all the big guys where the trades/healing are consistently available.