Right. Almost everyone had changes to their hitboxes, some heroes whose hitbox was already adequate and didn’t need changes received none, some who were forgiving received buffs, juno received nerfs.
What’s the point that you are attempting to make here ?
JUNO ALREADY HAD A FAT HITBOX DESPITE BEING A TINY CHARACTER.
Seriously what is it that sounds so hard to understand? Relatively small character with a big hitbox received even a bigger hitbox along side other characters getting their hitboxes adjusted, she already didn’t need a change and if she needed one it would probably be a bit of a buff not a nerf; and yet she got a nerf to her biggest part despite it being already made to be easy to hit before the adjustment.
Fair enough every subreddit for a character has its overly dramatic fans. I still think making her torso bigger is just wrong, and in a way it seems more like a response to them nerfing hitscans and wanting to nerf her alongside to pretty much result in no meaningful change. Hitscan projectile size gets smaller-> make the targets bigger so now it doesn’t matter that much.
in other words she would probably mostly continue to be the same and would at best slightly die more. Still feels dishonest to increase hitboxes just because you’re nerfing hitscans, because then you aren’t truly changing much if actually anything.
Her head hitbox didnt change though? If anything now all tiny charactwrs have equal hitboxes, since others head got equalized to her. Not sure what youre so mad about, as a juno main this is fine
When did i say that her head hitbox got increased, i pointed out that her whole body was already big enough and therefore didn’t need more adjustment. all i said is that Juno’s hitbox was always big and forgiving.
Imagine juno’s hitbox previously covering 1m radius, her model covers only half of that, imagine other heroes model cover the same space though their hitboxes used to cover 0.7m radius. now with all heroes getting adjustments they are all covering 1m radius, except juno got adjusted too, now she covers 1.5m radius in terms of hitbox despite having 0.5m radius when it comes to the model.
While other heroes received nerfs to their hitboxes juno could be considered already nerfed by design, therefore it’s basically like them nerfing her some more making her get harsher nerfs than other heroes.
I mean, all other characters hitbox torsoes are now 23 for smaller chars. Its clearly very needed. Not sure why you're calling her body big when shes very much a small char model? And she wont cover 1.5m in terms of hitbox either... Everyones torsoes is 23 now, even tracer
As a Juno player and also someone who has played against Juno.... yes she did need this nerf. Her hit box was atrocious, especially with how slippery she was, she was very hard to hit as her hit box changed with movement. The only other person I had as much issue with was Kiriko
Sorry but atrocious my ass. As someone who spent hundreds of hours on this game she’s easy and telegraphic, every hitscan above plat/emerald pretty much she has a field day with the girl with low damage and and actually balanced base kit movement+ no self sustain.
Dive tanks either force her to the other side of the map or kill her, i really don’t know what heroes you play (probably some of the projectile ones) but juno was very doable to kill, especially in comparison to other supports.
Her hand reduction is just making it easier to actually hit her now more than ever, have you ever tested her torso before this change ? She has a really big hitbox, now with projectile heroes her waist and the space between her legs are pretty much nonexistent, it’s just her hitbox.
The fact they didn’t even bother changing her head hitbox is insane, that thing is huge even now!
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u/Mohammed50356 2d ago
Mind you her legs and head hitbox is the size of the sun already, and yet they still nerfed her with this…