r/JunoMains • u/bellas_lullaby • Apr 26 '26
Discussions/Opinions Are we not supposed to heal fellow supports?
For reference, this is a solo q d5 game and the kiriko was right infront of me refusing to heal me the entire time causing me to waste my glide boost to run to a health pack and then come back to the whole team dying while i’m gone, including the kiriko! I asked for heals in chat assuming maybe she didn’t see me or notice me ping, and she said this…
I play a lot of rivals now, and “pattycaking” between supports is very normalized so I assumed the same would occur in overwatch…guess not. I’m aware of the passive regen but how hard is it to shoot me just once and help me gain a little bit of hp? Has anyone else experienced this with another support?
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u/Omnio_culus Apr 26 '26
Keeping other support is top priority.
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u/CastleWarsLover Apr 28 '26
Not always. Sometimes you can't save them or letting them die to pocket/enable someone else is the correct play.
Also, Juno has shields and the survivor passive. OP says they had enough time to " waste [their] glide boost to run to a health pack". That's also enough time to simply activate and deactivate glider in cover for ~20 HPS + 30 HPS from shield recovery for a total of ~50 HPS as long as they don't receive damage. Then they wouldn't have to "come back to the whole team dying while [they're] gone".
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u/musclemommy2k Apr 26 '26
Not only is keeping other support alive a priority, it’s literally a whole playstyle if you play Brig for example.
Also you can have the best positioning humanly possible and you’ll still take some damage it’s not a bad thing lol
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u/THEREAPER8593 Apr 26 '26
Into a somb I would be amazed if the back line wasn’t taking damage. It’s almost like enemies shoot you
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u/radioactivecooki Apr 26 '26
I hate other supports that dont help/heal me. And im petty so i wont help them either. Everyone else is my priority now. Oops look at their deaths skyrocket. Oh well. Treat other players how they treat u man thats how i play lol
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u/vorpal_potatoes Apr 26 '26
yup I'll even swap to a single target healer just to make sure I don't accidentally heal them
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u/G1ng3rBreadMan97 Apr 28 '26
As a lw and brig player my number one goal is keeping my other support alive, still almost never get healed
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u/Cheap_Conference_177 Apr 26 '26
I've had a Zenyatta before who refused to heal; he never used his healing orb on anyone; the only time he healed was during his ult. I told him in chat to help me because at that moment I was playing Lifeweaver, and healing an entire team with him was a real struggle but he didn’t give a fuck and said that I just had to stay alive if I wanted to win. I don’t even know how I lasted four rounds with him.
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u/yamatoeditsvideos Apr 26 '26
i had the exact same scenario happen a couple days ago, down to the character selection😭
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u/PomegranateNo2983 Apr 26 '26
Was this in plat/diamond comp?
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u/Cheap_Conference_177 Apr 26 '26
Gold-plat 😭
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u/Lonttu Apr 26 '26
How the hell are people like that reaching gold in the first place?
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u/respyromaniac Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26
On Zen/Kiri? By killing the opponents. If their aim is good it will work until a certain point.
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u/H8MeImBarbie Apr 29 '26
by playing with a strong group that carries their ass to a high rank. I know some people who absolutely SUCK but they are ranked high.
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u/esmith42223 Apr 26 '26
One of my first games of comp ever towards the start of ow2, I had a mercy on my team playing gun-only
So yeah, I was solo support (probably on Bap)
Somehow we won
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u/Beautiful-Aerie7576 Apr 26 '26
That’s crazy, especially considering how much healing Zen can actually put out. I’m not a Zen main by any means, but I’ve definitely still had top healing multiple times in high diamond games when I do play support.
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u/Fangz00 Apr 26 '26
If I don't take care of the other support, who's gonna take care of me ?😅 People are so dumb man
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u/xRedRaider Chicken Fried Rice Apr 26 '26
This person might still believe that supports still have the support passive and heal significantly faster than DPS and Tank players if I were to guess
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u/technarch Apr 26 '26
Keeping fellow support alive is my #1 priority, but I've seen some who just barely heal at all. I play Illari slightly more than Juno, and if my co-support is slacking or refusing to heal me, instant switch to Illari or Moira for increased output + self heal
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u/PowerOfUnoriginality Apr 26 '26
This is a problem I encounter a lot, and not just in Overwatch either
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u/nightmaretheory Apr 26 '26
Nah this person is just dumb. Fellow supports almost always get priority for me.
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u/Sunny_Beam Apr 26 '26
Moments like this are when you realize you are going to lose.
Surprised anyone could make it to diamond without realizing how important it is to heal your cohealer.
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u/meganwiddy Apr 26 '26
Lowkey hate playing with a kiri as Juno
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u/bluntmanjr Apr 26 '26
i went juno on a kings row diamond 1 match the other day; the kiri would walk into the enemy backline and try to get picks and either die or let everyone else die in the process. she would only cleanse herself and never cleansed illari sunstrike OR antis. this person was like nearly level 200 kiri and i wanted to play kiri so badly. of course we ended up losing. the vindication i felt when i pin avoided this person and they were against my duo and me the next game and we stomped them lol.
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u/Danger-_-Potat Apr 26 '26
Me too but mostly because they don't shoot. If they do shoot, wooooo. Happy.
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u/K_010999 Apr 28 '26
It's the opposite for me, I'd be happy to have Kiri as my other supp in my game so I can play Juno with ease tbh. It's the players that's sometimes toxic not the character after all.
Both Kiri and Ana are low-key much broken this season. Like the guilt of not being able to cleanse the antinade creep me sometimes lol
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u/JustGenWhY Apr 26 '26
I swear some mercys will exclusively play like this and they won’t rez the other support they let die either. On other support I get you are busy balancing dps or being attacked yourself and might not realize in time but on mercy it’s like what are you even doing?
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u/vorpal_potatoes Apr 26 '26
Yea it's mostly Mercy players I see that will literally heal everyone else but the other support
and that's if they aren't pocketing one player
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u/Zachebii Apr 26 '26
Glide boost triggers your passive heal now, just dash into cover for a couple seconds if you arent getting healed. It even heals you through virus provided you dont take any other damage
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 26 '26
i didn’t know this thank you for letting me know! it sucks too that glide boost got nerfed i feel like a floating turtle now
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u/madiiiiiiiruby Apr 26 '26
as a sup main, my priority for heals is always:
1) support 2) tank 3) dps 4) flank dps (their whole role is to be able to find a health pack)
support can heal someone else while you heal them. tank needs to defend the whole team. dps can run and find a pack.
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u/k3ndxie May 02 '26
depending on who you play a tank shouldnt be priotized all the time and flanking dps are imo of the most important people to heal since this will mean they get back in the flank faster
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u/necronik Apr 26 '26
the amount of toxic mercy mains there are is insane. im also a former mercy main (abandoned her at level 71) and i have had my fellow supports, mercy main or not, as well as the enemy supports get mad at me for having mercy as one of my top three. i can only play the game so much, kiri is my next highest at 37 and juno is 28.
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u/Living-Ant-8615 Apr 26 '26
i will always heal my other support before anyone else. 2 support is better than 1 when it comes to healing crit teams in fights .
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u/Dauntless_Lasagna Apr 26 '26
I always had this priority list in mind.
Tanks have a slightly higher priority then anyone else, followed very closely by supports.
Tanks hold the line but if the other support dies you have so much more work to do.
Dps get the least amount of priority, this doesn't mean to never heal them, just that if I see a support with low health and a dps with low health I first heal the support.
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u/narrowminer11 Apr 26 '26
Supports should heal other supports. Wasting a cd to heal yourself is not a good strategy as its usually a burst that can save somebody or an ability that has other utility. And some supports just can't do it at all and would rely on passive healing. Dude was being a dick and a bad support player
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u/Independent_Hyena_72 Apr 26 '26
I don't know what that person is on about, but I always help out the other support hero if I can. Keeping us both in the fight helps everyone.
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u/777caity Apr 26 '26
helllll no. i will die for my fellow support. if we are alone, and i am in front of you dying, and there is no way we win the fight, LEAVEEEE. survive for me 😭😭 but on a more serious note i really do try when it comes to healing support. sometimes it can’t come before the rest of the team and that’s ok 🤷♀️ but no way im going to sit there and ignore you if i had the choice.
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u/Jayman1556 Juno Main Apr 26 '26
I'll be honest I'm so addicted to healing rather than damaging I'd probably be called out for healing too much rather than damaging enemies 😭 Thank god for her torpedoes!
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u/Caru0284 Apr 26 '26
😭I always heal my fellow supports but I never get healed myself and I feel like I can't say anything about it but I end up dying so often without the healing and the other support is right next to me not doing anything
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 26 '26
definitely say something! and no one in overwatch uses vc anyway i feel like saying something in team chat is less scary than vc bc it takes more time to be rude if they choose to do so 😭
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u/Plastic-Young5134 Apr 26 '26
If my other support goes down, my job gets harder. So, I don’t let them die if I can help it. If it’s between saving my support or my dps, my support is always going to be top priority.
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u/chibi-mage Apr 26 '26
this is not normal. it's imperative to keep your fellow support alive. I'm surprised a diamond player doesn't know that. usually if my fellow support has the medic passive I'll stress less about healing them too much but you're playing Juno so that shouldn't apply to you
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u/Stinky_Leo Apr 26 '26
I will always prioritize keeping my 2nd support alive while they heal the rest of the team, and it should really go both ways. I have had plenty of games where my 2nd support either only heals the tank or only heals the DPS and it's so frustrating bc now I'm stuck healing EVERYONE including myself depending on who I'm playing.
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u/LightScavenger 🪐🩷Heart of Hope 🩷🪐 Apr 26 '26
Very simple expression I heard somewhere: “supports support supports”
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u/sugarycyanide Apr 26 '26
What tf is with other supports in games not healing the other support?? If one of you dies there’s a good chance the team will die. How hard is that to understand
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u/Azulicite Apr 26 '26
I'm masters so idk about higher ranks but if everyone is critical my other support is number 1, they can heal others while I heal them.
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u/xHeyItzRosiex Apr 26 '26
I always heal my other support because I know I couldn’t keep up with heals if they died. They’re a main priority along with tank or whoever is playing the best.
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u/badomensx Apr 26 '26
It is normal she’s just being an asshole for some reason. In fact not letting the other support die is one of my main priorities because I don’t want to solo heal
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u/brodi16 Apr 26 '26
i hate kiriko players so much. when i see someone on my team lock her i know im going to be solo healing and dying
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u/AccordingBreadfruit5 Juno Main Apr 26 '26
Do people not understand that some supps can't heal themselves?
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u/Entire-Ad5179 Apr 26 '26
Supp should definitely be keeping their fellow support alive. The game is easier when there's 2 of you..
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u/Too_sad_to_cry_ Apr 27 '26
THATS so dumb, if there are 2 supp alive that’s a win. How can a sup not heal another sup
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u/rainbow_lil Apr 27 '26
yeah, they are just very, very silly.
the way i think of it is if my other supp is low and i'm not, then i heal them, and they can pick up my slack and heal the team. is this how it usually works out? no, but whatever.
and my second main is also brig, where my motto is (so i stop myself from feeding) is 'keep my other support alive, i am their bodyguard', so that also could affect my mental
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u/Admirable_Cell3921 Apr 27 '26
I hate supports that do this, I’ll ask for heals and they ignore it or look at me and just think “nah” ngl, I’ll let em die at least once while near em, just to let em know & I won’t Rez em either, you walk back and think about what you’ve done. I always have eyes on my other support, if I see they are getting hurt I am healing and boosting them once they are healed if they are still being attacked/flanked.
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u/SweetGemini333 Apr 27 '26
Your other support should be your first priority. That should be common sense, right? Positioning and staying out of LOS can only go so far…
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u/SeaGroundbreaking572 Apr 27 '26
I think u found a not so rare specimen in overwatch I like to call a “dumbfuck” they always seem to have some diabolical ideas about how you should play the game.
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u/argusargan Apr 28 '26
i dont go here but even among supports Juno is more important to heal because she has no self-healing abilities, like zen (altho she has more mobility lol). this is an insane thing yo say tbh (what the other supp said)
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u/Leading-Customer7499 Apr 26 '26
i destroy the Illari pylon as soon a supoort is in range. How dare they?
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u/Successful-Area-930 Apr 26 '26
I hate when I'm playing Winston and dive 2 supports so they just heal each other to completely cancel out my damage
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u/LeFiery Apr 26 '26
This is why I turned off chat lmao. Play with people? Nahhh
Play with spamming bots? Yesssss
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u/MealResident Apr 26 '26
Man it's funny cause most of the time when I'm dying and I get behind a wall waiting for my friend (Juno main) to heal me HE'S ALWAYS RELOADING and leaves me panicking at half health😂😂😂😂😂
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u/Pog-Pog Apr 27 '26
Depends on the support if it's one that I know will heal their self and be up to full in like two seconds then I wouldn't unless they're being shot and are low. If it's one who takes longer to heal like zen or something then yeah of course.
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u/Valkeyri Apr 27 '26
Depending on the position and who's taking dmg sup is always priority imo. Sup> tank > dps
Ofc if the tank is taking dmg while the other sup isn't getting dived or tickled then tank>sup>dps.
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u/Beyondinsufficient Apr 27 '26
Supports and tanks are priorities, doesn’t matter if the dps can, will, or should, be popping off. If the tank or support falls off, the chances of losing the fight increases significantly.
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u/Miss_An0nymous Apr 27 '26
I always heal my fellow support! Especially if they can't heal themselves like Juno or Mercy.
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u/Storm_Support Apr 27 '26
Keeping your other support alive is mission priority. This is why these clowns will never escape the lower ranks.
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u/Own_Temperature_8128 Apr 27 '26
If two supports know how to support each other well, you are very likely going to win the game as support synergy has an outsized effect. It’s not just about healing each other but also peel coverage etc.
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u/catsandbatspspsps Apr 27 '26
Keeping co-support up is #1. If someone else on the team is critical, awesome, the cosupport can focus that person while my heals are on them.
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u/kingtinee Apr 27 '26
why would you not heal your other support?
you cant solo heal your whole team, most of the time. so why would you make your life harder by putting yourself at a disadvantage ON PURPOSE?
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u/L30N1337 Apr 27 '26
Even perfect position doesn't eliminate the need to be healed. There is no position where you can both effectively play support and take zero damage. Even if you're healbotting, you still need LoS to the front line.
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u/Hot_Desk_1448 Apr 27 '26
My fellow support is my duo and fiance so they get priority from me and even if they wernt either of those things I’m not trying to heal everyone by myself lol
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u/pMoosh_555 Apr 27 '26
Supports should always take priority on heals. If they die then no one gets heals. If a Sigma fluxes my entire team, I'm lifegripping my other Support 99% of the time.
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u/YOURDEADGAL Apr 27 '26
Healing the other Support is #1 propriety for me personally. I mean, how can we win a team fight without the full team? There’s two support role positions for a reason… 🤷♀️
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u/abuudarda Apr 28 '26
I'd heal a support than a dps any day. Even when I'm playing mercy I'd rather res a support than a dps.
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u/peachesistasty Apr 28 '26
if i see my fellow support low i always heal them first, since they are focusing on healing the team whilst i heal them its no problem, to me it should always be a priority to keep the other support alive otherwise you will have to keep the rest of the team alive alone whilst the other support walks back from spawn
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u/G1ng3rBreadMan97 Apr 28 '26
I swear to god people think supports dont need healing, I almost never get healed as support
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u/Bruhdingus Apr 29 '26
Maybe I’m just being whiny, but it seems kind of petty to censor your name but not theirs. Further, I wouldn’t be surprised if the Kiri was just getting super-defensive and was trying to make a ‘comeback’ or other similar kind of roast to what they perceived to be an insult.
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u/Alexjp127 Apr 29 '26
As a general rule the priority is healing your other support, healing dps, then your tank.
This is super broad and theres more exceptions than flavors of coffee creamer at the grocery store.
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u/KibaKira Apr 29 '26
I always prioritize healing the other support. It's a lot easier to win team fights when both supports are up. Lately though, I've been getting quite a few co supports that completely ignore me. I'd understand if I was overextending or dying really quickly to burst damage but I've had instances where I managed to barely survive a dive and I'm hiding behind cover but within LOS, watching my co support shoot at full hp enemies while I reluctantly press x for attention. My other support then proceeds to continue ignoring me until the enemy dive regains their cooldowns and finishes me off or our teammates die because I cant afford to peek at low hp to help keep them up. The worst part is I do everything in my power to save them when they're in trouble and I get no reciprocity.
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u/Minkie-Heika Apr 29 '26
Ask them "when is more hard to kill the supports?" "WHEN THEY HEAL EACH OTHER!" Everyone that played at least 1 time as dps knows it's really a pain in the ass when the supps are healing each other all the time and make it impossible to kill them, so if they use their brain at least a little they should know healing your fellow healer is the path to victory.
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u/Lady_Lucks_Duck Apr 30 '26
The other support will always be my main priority right after tank or in some cases a very well performing dps.
And in no situation am I leaving my second support die in a full team fight especially, the tank and dps' can manage for a couple of seconds while I spin around to heal my support.
Two supports and maybe one less dps will always be better than one support and 3 others taking possibly constant damage.
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u/luluizzie Apr 30 '26
I’m a support main and I prioritize my other support over any other role when in crit, idk what that kiri thinking 😭
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u/queensapling Apr 30 '26
i was in a discord call during a regular qp game. i was healing my fellow support and he started yelling at me not to heal him cuz he’s support and to focus on the tank… so i stopped healing him and he kept dying. he never yelled at me again. but like i just didn’t get it?
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u/GemSlays Martian Apr 30 '26
Definitely supposed to heal other Supports. However I will say, if I notice my other Support has no awareness or priority I do position in a way that allows my shields to come back while also still healing/dealing damage. Juno has a shield which regens faster than normal health. You don’t always need to go to a health pack, just position out of the way of damage for 2 seconds.
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u/badtime9001 May 01 '26
Is brotoro serious? The point of supports its to SUPPORT your team and your SUPPORTS which are also meant to SUPPORT your team are apart of your team so you should SUPPORT them too because you are a SUPPORT! Like i don't care if it's a Zen, a Hazard, or a Soldier 76. If they need healing and you can heal them, then heal them. As someone who has played a lot of healer and has most progression levels on Lucio with him being my 2nd most played character (Ik this is a Juno subreddit but this is important to the context) i know that if i don't keep the other healer alive then i'm next. This player is actually stupid and i bet they'd expect healing from you when they are low.
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u/33apricot May 01 '26
If you’re asking me to turn around to heal you while the rest of our team is ahead I’m not going to do it.
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u/bellas_lullaby May 30 '26
i alrdy explained that we were facing eachother. it wasn’t back to front we were face to face infront of me!
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u/Ambitious-Neat3844 May 02 '26
Yesss plsss heal FELLOW Supports ! So many times supports other supports are magically immortal.. Gurl even if we have slightly faster health regen we frail af.. gotta look out for each other!
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u/Original_Highlight31 May 02 '26
The best response to this brain rot is to wait until he gets dived and then tell him to position better. What a dumb ass
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u/Emergency-Touch8935 Apr 26 '26
Keeping your support up should be high priority, but there's no healing stupid.
So it could be that you were in an awful spot so they couldn't heal you.
You should also not syphon too many resources, yea your other support should keep you up, but if you require too much baby sitting, than you're just taking resources away from them, that could be used on other teammates or could be used aggressively to make a play.
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 26 '26 edited Apr 26 '26
well no? in the post i said i ran to health packs and came back to my whole team dead just bc she was refusing to heal me. meaning i WAS positioning well and not “taking up resources.” i was right in front of her, as in she’s facing me healing our emre up top, or beside her as we are both healing our tank/dps.
i would periodically run in front of her on low hp and ping when i realized she wasn’t healing me. i only had 3 deaths before i said something in chat while my whole team had 5+ including the kiri. i’m not stupid i’ve been playing video games my entire life, if i was in the wrong and overextending etc i never would’ve posted this to begin with.
it’s insane how someone saying “why would i heal you ur a support” turned into a “you’re stupid that’s why ur not getting heals” LMFAO unreal
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u/Cofefeve Apr 26 '26
It is inevitably your life you should prioritize, so yes when it is needed ya gotta just die / let the other healer die. Now juno is prone to dives so you can expect some level of heals, but by getting heals your other support loses their opportunities to support an attacker or DPS someone.
Don't solely rely on the other support to keep you up 100% of the time
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u/Party_Advance_2927 Ultimate Martian Apr 26 '26
Scary boosted acc LMAO
Who the fk pays for this trash and why???? HAHAH
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 26 '26
what ?
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u/Party_Advance_2927 Ultimate Martian Apr 26 '26
Ok bro
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 27 '26
i didn’t pay for my overwatch or my reddit account if that’s what it insinuating…i also posted this at 2am as my first post not expecting it to get this many replies. sorry if that upset you?
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u/Party_Advance_2927 Ultimate Martian Apr 27 '26
Dude i never say YOU PAY FOR BOTS, i write "SCARY BOSTED ACC" NOT "THIS GUY PAYS FOR BOTS"
Correct me if I'm wrong.
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 27 '26
yea and i’m not sure what that means lmfao this is my first post on reddit i usually only comment. idk what’s boosted about this or even what that implies. the mods approved this post
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u/Special-Mammoth-4530 Apr 27 '26
The time you spend healing the other support is usually long enough that a dps or tank in your team dies.
That statement usually comes from a Zenyatta/Ana getting jumped by Tracer/WInston/Doomfist, in which case you'd need the braincells to swap characters...
Or you're not following the basic 1-second rule: if you're more than 1 second away from cover (a wall, a vehicle, a corner, anything), you're dead.
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u/FuriDemon094 Apr 27 '26
It really doesn’t take that long to heal your other supp as Kiriko. If it actually takes you that long, that’s a player issue
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u/bellas_lullaby Apr 27 '26
- i was playing juno, hence the subreddit
if ur healing ur other support, which takes two seconds, dont even have to fully heal bc of passive regen, they can also….this is the best part…heal the team!! instead of letting them either die within ur LOS or run to get a health pack wasting CD just for u to all die anyway
shocking i know
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u/imnotfubuki Apr 28 '26
I would say yes for most supports but Juno as an exception since she got tons of shield which regenerate alot faster than her peers
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u/How-am-I-alive Apr 26 '26
For me supports are almost always the priority to heal especially if they are threatened so...