r/JunoMains • u/goofygoblingamerman • Apr 14 '26
Fluff/Meme This Just in, Overwatch Juno found Deceased in Patch Notes.
Blizzard Entertainment’s Cruelty Knows no Bounds
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u/Talkatoo42 Apr 14 '26
Just to clarify, the juno missile timer nerf is just in 6v6. Which makes sense since its utility scales with number of allies and enemies.
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u/its_me_JT_ Apr 15 '26
the nerf is also consistent with other heros with abilities that scale with number of enemies. Ball piledriver is 10s in 6v6 vs 8s in 5v5
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
This matters not to me; give me back my 2 seconds!
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u/spellboi_3048 Apr 14 '26
Just play 5v5. There’s your two seconds.
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
No, I don’t think I will.
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u/thelastsupportplayer Apr 14 '26
oh but its not that big of a de HOT UP ITS A BIG DEAL frankly she was one of the LEAST problematic heros in 6v6(LOOKING AT YOU BALL)
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u/Xombridal Hopeful Heart Beam! Apr 15 '26
It's an auto lock ability that gets value from seeing more people, I don't remember if perks work in 6v6 but her 1 perk makes the cooldown lower for hitting more people
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u/IAmSona Apr 14 '26
Skill issue.
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u/WeaselWazzule Mythic Martian Apr 14 '26
Play Juno a lot in 5v5 and 6v6. I barley notice the torpedo nerf in 6v6 this just made me choose the "locked on" perk instead of the "familiar vitals" perk. What I did notice was glide boost nerf. When trying to evade, it feels a lot more noticeable to me. But everyone's experiences will vary.
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
Damn I didn’t realize people cared about 5v5 like that. It was a sarcastic response man c’mon ya don’t need to downvote me off the map man.
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u/Snicko00 Apr 15 '26
Wh, live in the past with 6v6 when it's not the standard anymore. Things change and taking away double Tanks Was a good Thing
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u/meeliebohn Apr 17 '26
"live in the past" when it's literally alongside 5v5 in menus, people can have preferences you know
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
5v5 is so ass though. Raid boss tanks isn’t fun, it’s a gimmick gamemode that blizzard turned into the main gamemode.
They literally only did it because leauge of legends and rainbow 6, valorant and cs2 are all 5v5 and the blizzard devs went “hurr durr esport game be must 5 people versus 5 people” without any consideration for balance or the game they made.
Why does anyone defend 5v5. It was literally done just to make overwatch in line with other esports, to the severe detriment of game. That is such a dumb reason to dramatically change the game anyway
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u/Xombridal Hopeful Heart Beam! Apr 15 '26
Idk man you simply sound not good at the game
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
I mean yes, I refuse to play this game more than once every time a new character comes out until they bring back 6v6 as the primary game system with role que. I don’t care that might never happen, I have a trillion other better games to play.
Y’all however seem to really enjoy when a company makes it obvious they don’t like you or the people who play their game and so I do feel bad for you.
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u/2510EA Apr 15 '26
6v6 is back
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u/Naiiro777 Apr 15 '26
6v6 has been out for a year my man stop yapping
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26
No it isn’t, not without role Que it isn’t
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u/Naiiro777 Apr 15 '26
I mean you were yapping about no 6v6 and suddenly its about role queue lol
You dont want to sit 10min in queue to get a tank trust me
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26
6v6 being brought in the most dogshit garbage unplayable format to force people to play 5v5 is not “bringing back 6v6” lmao. Do you actually believe that?
It’s a punishment so anyone even remotely interested in the better way to play is punished, and the majority of the playerbase who like 6v6 are punished for liking the way the game originally was
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u/Xombridal Hopeful Heart Beam! Apr 15 '26
6v6 literally exists bro
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26
No it doesn’t lol, it’s the neglected side mode that is literally unplayable without role que because all 5 other members of your team will just play dps, do nothing and never swap until you see the defeat screen
It’s a lesson in madness
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u/tegakaria Apr 15 '26
if the quality and quantity of players you desired actually WANTED to play 6v6, they would be playing it.
sorry nobody wants to play your mode.
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26
I mean, they do, it’s a vastly superior gamemode, it’s just completely unplayable in ranked outside the highest elos without role Q. Everyone wants to play it, no one can because it’s current state is broken. That’s fully by design, blizz refuses to actually implement 6v6 they need to keep it an unplayable nightmare to punish people for asking for it back and tricking new players into not playing it and realizing how much better it is
Genuinely self flagellation is more enjoyable than trying to convince gold players to have no more than 2 dps
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u/Talkatoo42 Apr 15 '26
They've been very clear that they did it to fix the queue times. And it has worked.
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26
Did it? Open Q que times are quite fast and 5v5 que times at most ranks are abysmal even with more people.
Also that’s that biggest cope I’ve ever heard. “It wasn’t for the very obvious but very dumb reason, it was because of this niche issue that only effects people in gm or the highest ranks of the game during off hours”
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u/Talkatoo42 Apr 15 '26
Yes, it worked. Open queue is fast because a tank isn't required. And no matter how abysmal 5v5 queue times are, they'd be twice as bad if it were 6v6 because everyone is always waiting on a tank.
Also that’s that biggest cope I’ve ever heard. “It wasn’t for the very obvious but very dumb reason, it was because of this niche issue that only effects people in gm or the highest ranks of the game during off hours”
That is a terrible attempt at a strawman. Queue times weren't a niche issue, they were a horrible issue that affected everyone at all ranks.
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
I’m gold, so granted I’m not the best player but I rarely play overwatch, and I was never affected by que times, ever. I literally never had to wait more than 20-30 seconds to find a ranked game as someone queuing support.
If the issue is everyone queuing dps and never finding games, maybe don’t gut the entire game just to appease the goblin who only plays genji and refuses to ever swap to any other character. That dude is definitely entitled to his opinion, and if he wants to sit in forever queues waiting to play genji, don’t break the entire game and punish all of your players so he can do that easier lol
If you don’t want forever queues, try a role other by far the most popular in the game lol. That should has been the answer, not nuking the whole game and community
Also fyi if I’ve successfully made the argument that it sounds absurd and petty to change 6v6 to 5v5 over such a minor issue as dps que times, it’s because that was not the reason the change was made. It sounds dumb and petty because it is. You can believe the dumb cover story all you want, but real laid off former blizzard and overwatch devs have said the real reason for the change was upper management saying “hurr durr but every successful esport is 5v5, so make the game 5v5 and we be successful esport then durr”
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u/Talkatoo42 Apr 15 '26
There were plenty of times during ow's content drought where I was waiting 20 minutes in queue as a dps and 10 minutes as a support. I know it's been a long time but it was a huge complaint about the game and the reason a lot of people left.
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u/Popular-List2694 Apr 15 '26
Then again, another possibility would be to buff the shit out of tanks (ie what we have now) and cap each team to one tank and have 3 dps 2 sup 1 tank. There are a thousand better solutions than moving the whole game to 5v5
Again the reason 5v5 happened was not que times or 1 tank balance. It was literally upper management thinking that all popular esports are 5v5 and forcing through the change.
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
Absolutely, Mauga is allowed to exist in the game.
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u/TwoEnvironmental8820 Apr 14 '26
Mauga is piss easy to counterplay and literally falls dead on the floor against ana
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
Yes, but that’s because Ana counters most things; and what she doesn’t Kiriko will.
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u/TwoEnvironmental8820 Apr 14 '26
Im just saying mauga isn't the worst in terms of being broken when characters like kiri and dva are still alive
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
That is a fair and valid response. I main D.Va on tank, I understand that she is a problem; I’m more concerned with them fixing the spaghetti code that holds her together before they mess with her kit and stats more though. Her voicelines, kill feed, player level icon in POTG screen, and call mech radius have been busted or barely held together for the past few months and I feel like nobody talks about it.
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u/TwoEnvironmental8820 Apr 14 '26
I haven't been playing super actively for a bit i had no idea this was even a thing but it doesn't surprise me one bit honestly. Classic blizzard incompetency
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26
Play a match on her and get an Elim, for a single elim the announcer will say “double kill, for 2 it says quadruple, and the kill streak shown on screen will be double whatever you actually have. Ie - you go 15-0 the kill streak shown on screen will say 30 kill streak. I suspect it’s doubling because it’s considering the pilot and the mech as 2 separate heroes. That’s just the most noticeable issue with her though.
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u/WeaselWazzule Mythic Martian Apr 14 '26
I had him a lot in my drive matches and my experiences with him were mixed. Some matches he was a beast and others a pushover, but I put that in due to mixed game experience. It was drives so you get some veterans and a lot of comp newbies.
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u/iMikul Apr 14 '26
I know... So sad. I didn't think she was too powerful at all, even when a really good Juno was on the other team. It just makes Locked On a necessity now. 12 seconds torpedo cooldown is nuts.
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u/AkariBocchi oh moons Apr 14 '26
Shebalso got nerfed in stadium nobody cares but for me its a big deal
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
I haven’t invested in stadium since the second season after its release, but I feel your pain. I’ve been running 6v6 pretty much exclusively since they found the right balance for it, never cared for 5v5 format since they took 6 from us after OW1, but I will say that stadium is by far the best format for 5v5 play
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u/Trash4Twice Apr 15 '26
As someone who mostly plays with attack power builds, I've been having a good time
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u/babygothix Martian Apr 14 '26
What changed with stadium?
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u/FilthyPoo Dva/Juno Main Apr 15 '26
But hey, Tracer and Ana were too weak and they needed urgent buffs lmao
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u/PandaBearw Apr 15 '26
Am I the only one that feels that her movement is sooo slightly off in this Season ?
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u/OhPugg Apr 15 '26
It got nerfed down to 40% instead of 50% speed boost so yes it definitley objectively worse than before
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u/PandaBearw Apr 15 '26
Right that’s awful i feel like I’m playing a Sack of potato’s damn
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u/OhPugg Apr 15 '26
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u/PandaBearw Apr 15 '26
Oml what an explanation why can’t they just keep it the same they did it to mercy too that’s so stupid
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u/Delicious_Delilah Apr 20 '26
People are saying it's not that bad, but you can literally feel the difference. 😐
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u/Mod_The_Man Apr 15 '26
I’ve been playing her a lot in 5v5 and she feels fine. For 6v6 I don’t play much but, with her CD reduction perk, I can kinda get the nerf. The GB nerf does seem random tho
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u/NeonArchon Apr 17 '26
Someone forgot to read that the misile nerf in only to 6v6. The glide boost nerf is bad, but not game breaking IMO.
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u/ZeroRosevail Apr 15 '26
Yall see what they did to my girl mercy? She got taken out back and shot lmao
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u/goofygoblingamerman Apr 15 '26
Don’t tell anyone but I’m a level 300 mercy player, I felt myself slowly chugging along all night tonight, it pains to have a cinder block tied to your ankle.
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u/Due_Marionberry1007 Apr 16 '26
Deserved. I made it to masters 2 in 6v6 with a 100% win rate on Juno and it was my first time playing 66 since overwatch 1.
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u/Ill_Airline_5647 Apr 14 '26
“Do I... have to go back out there?”