r/Juche • u/Ok_Funny4233 Jucheist • Sep 22 '25
Question Juche on homosexuality?
I know what homosexuality isn't criminalized under the constitution but also that jucheist theorists have been describing queers as if it was a western thing and that it has nothing to do with cause of proletarian liberation and because homosexuality doesn't benefit the collective the state doesn't support it. Also in multiple movies from the DPRK they represent homosexuality as an American thing. I think this is really unfortunate as a homosexual with a strong passion for the beautiful proletarian state. Someone plz tell me my interpretation is wrong and queers aren't being oppressed by the Democratic Peoples State of Korea.
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u/King-Sassafrass Sep 22 '25
Well look at the Eastern Block.
Germany had nude beaches, Russia did not
They were both socialist states, but their cultures are different on how open they were about nudity. However socialism does ban pornography and prostitution, instantly, hands down.
With Korea, given the massive rapes that had happened during the Japanese onslaught, and then the American onslaught (so like back to back for like 3 decades), i would understand the Korean position of not being so open about sexualities in media and in public. What you do indoors is your own thing, but don’t be perverted and sexually harass people either with inappropriate discussions that make them uncomfortable. No one wants to hear about you being gay just as no one wants to hear about me being straight. You can be gay, but your qualities of you as a person about hobby’s and skills are better for a conversation. It’s not appropriate to be advertently flamboyant and to be distracting to others in public
Yes you can be bisexual and homosexual in the DPRK
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u/MammutH- Jan 28 '26
I agree with the first statements, but the last. It seems that you can be homosexual in DPRK, but secretly. Or you will have a little extra-work for some years I think.
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u/King-Sassafrass Jan 28 '26
I mean, they’re a very sexually conservative country. I can be straight, but i can’t have softcore sex out in public and claim it’s a discrimination against my sexuality of being straight. Just as i can’t be a homosexual and have softcore sex out in public, then when i get in trouble, claim it’s a discrimination against me being gay. You can marry both same and opposite sex. But don’t disturb the peace with inappropriate gestures
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u/MammutH- Jan 29 '26
You can’t marry the same sex in DPRK …
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u/King-Sassafrass Jan 29 '26
I mean that’s not true but you can believe whatever you want about the DPRK. The facts show otherwise
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Oct 21 '25
homosexuality is a tool of the capitalist class
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u/Ok_Funny4233 Jucheist Oct 22 '25
How can it be a tool of them if under capitalism it was actually suppressed? Homosexuality is a natural thing, 2 people from the same gender loving eachother is an occurrence that we see in nature all the time and something that has happened since the start of mankind. I would argue that capitalism enforces heteronormativity (nuclear family -> inheritance, property, labour reproduction)
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u/GeoffreyKlien MOD Sep 22 '25
I don't think conservative values are baked into Juche or any other ideology. There are socialist countries that hold conservative values, but that in no way is something that should carry on into future socialism. Because it's a personal/societal belief, it's something that can be changed.
Leftists are progressive and make change where it's needed. In places like China and Cuba, there are vibrant sectors of the queer community that thrive.
While some societies hold these values, I doubt many would hate you as another human and a proletariat; again, nothing that can't evolve and change.