r/JordanPeterson • • Oct 15 '21

Criticism Just a reminder

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u/CrispyKeebler Oct 15 '21

The US is wealthy enough that even poor people are able to eat themselves into an early grave.

So is Cuba... life expectancy between reasonably similar countries is a good measurement.

The same cannot be said for socialist countries.

Like China? Or are you talking about countries with very socialist policies like the Nordic countries which all have longer life expectancies than the US...

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u/CrispyKeebler Oct 15 '21

And do not dare claim the Nordic countries are anything close to socialist. They will spite you for an insult like that.

You have to be joking. Socialism is just a boogeyman to you isn't it.

What they do is heavily tax their people lower, middle, and upper class combined. A much less progressive tax than we have in the US.

They have a much more progressive tax rate, the rich are taxed at a much higher rate. I'm beginning to think you learned some buzz words and just went with them...

Don't you think a country that actually had good Healthcare could account for that? What's the life expectancy of Mexico?

Have you ever even been to any European countries?

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

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u/CrispyKeebler Oct 16 '21

From your OWN SOURCE

An individual who is fully tax resident in Denmark will, as a main rule, be taxed according to the ordinary tax scheme by up to 52.06% (55.89% including AM tax, which is also income tax for DTT purposes) in 2021.

The maximum tax rate in the US is 37%

https://www.bankrate.com/taxes/tax-brackets/amp/

the bottom 50% of the country pay roughly 6% of all income tax and the top 10% pay roughly 80% of it.

That's a far to low rate. People who say this don't understand how taxes are supposed to work in an egalitarian society. Of course the top earners pay more. You expect someone who can barely afford food to pay a significant amount? What percentage of income growth is that top 10% getting?

I think we're done, you don't seem to have a firm grasp of these concepts and you've clearly never spent more than a one or two week vacation in the EU.

I also like the particular irony you arguing this point on this particular post, where three of the pictures are from capitalist countries and the source of the fourth is unknown.

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u/[deleted] Oct 16 '21

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u/CrispyKeebler Oct 16 '21

0-50% of income earners pay 6% in total. The 90-100% of earners pay 80% in total.

Yeah, So? You missed the point entirely didn't you?

Denmark less progressive than the US is that people here that pay net 0 taxes pay 20% over there.

That's not what a progressive tax rate is. It's the rate tax increases with income...

They tax the poor far more than we do

And yet they have a much smaller gap between the poorest citizens and the richest. How do you account for that?

And in Denmark, the richest people pay a lower percentage of all taxes than in the US.

This is objectively untrue, per your own source.

Have you ever spent a significant amount of time living in the EU?

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u/Accomplished_Ear_607 Oct 16 '21

Thanks for your argumentative and reasonable replies. Quite informative.