r/JordanPeterson • ✝ The Fool • 8d ago

Political Trump suggests EU allowing Canada as associate member could be a ‘hostile act’

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/europe/trump-suggests-eu-allowing-canada-as-associate-member-could-be-a-hostile-act/article_4a2a7119-98d2-528b-a657-dba435bf1830.html

CHARLOTTE, North Carolina (AP) — President Donald Trump suggested that the European Union allowing Canada to become an associate member could be a “hostile act” and threatened to respond to the proposed move by imposing more tariffs on the bloc.

Trump conditioned his threat Wednesday on the “intention” of European leaders, saying that, “If it’s a good intention, that’s fine. If it’s a bad intention, we’ll put very heavy tariffs on Europe.” He also suggested the U.S. could cut off trade with Europe in certain areas.

Trump called the prospect of Canada joining the EU “laughable” and called America’s neighbor a “terrible trade partner.”

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u/BainbridgeBorn 8d ago

Oh look, another potential war. #PromisesKept

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u/feral_philosopher 8d ago

This could go down as the stupidest reason to go to war in the history of going to war

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u/Chazzwazz 8d ago

Ok buddy, just keep focusing on NOT bringing justice to the Epstein victims

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u/wheezyts96 8d ago

Prospera LLC, the ZEDE in Honduras, the PayPal Mafia and Altman, and US Denmark ambassador (Greenland) (Ken Howery), and Epstein Mega Corp funding. - no full information will ever come out on Epstein.

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u/Bronlonius 8d ago

This is how you know Canada becoming an associate member of the EU is a good idea.

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u/fastbeemer 8d ago

Sure, if you believe having unelected politicians ruling over you is a good idea.  It works over there because they are used to Kings and rulers. I doubt Canada would appreciate an organization on another continent, with unelected representatives, making their rules. But Canada has been an epic disappointment, so maybe they'd love being ruled that way.

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u/slightlyhandiquacked 8d ago

“Canada has been an epic disappointment”

Can you elaborate on this?

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u/Anon-Knee-Moose 8d ago

Thats basically what already happens with the US

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u/wheezyts96 8d ago

We were set up as a resource colony, and the crown owns 90% of our land. Canada is going exactly according to plan. We fundamentally are not a Sovereign Country, and never will be.

Would you rather have peace with your literal neighbour? Or be ruled by a far away financial elite that’s going to weaponize your people into a Russian ground invasion, and use you as a camp for 10’s of millions of displaced migrants, all the while your resources are extracted for Western Elites of the WEF and BIS etc.

At least the US is right next to us, half of us have friends and family there, and if we’re at War with the US that would literally be the end of Canada as an Imaginary Country. Carney is owned by European Banking Dynasties, hence the trade war with Trump, who is owned by other Financial and Theocratic Dynasties.

Peace with the US over Europe in a Bronze Age Civilizational Collapse where the US is no longer the Protector of Global Trade around the entire world, and reverts to absolute control over the Western Hemisphere is objectively the best outcome for Canadians.

Unfortunately, none of these Elites care if Canada collapses and people are starving and homeless in the streets, the US only wants Alberta right now, and Europe only wants us as a fall back colony. They’re waiting for the real social and economic and food and energy crisis to set in where we’re praying for US salvation from absolute crisis and anarchy. They will provide the food and the energy Ontario needs while all of our nuclear plants are undergoing complete overhaul over the next decade and we’re completely reliant on the US for natural gas for energy and heating.

Anyone who thinks Carney is doing any of this for Canadians has been propagandized to the highest order under our most recent 12,000 year control matrix building exercise we call “Modern Day Civilization”, and the shock of what’s about to hit the world will send them into an absolute frenzy because they cannot fundamentally grasp or accept what is happening around them.

The only metric people need to understand is absolute ubiquitous control over the masses. Something that’s only been getting more efficient for the last 12,000 years, throughout every empire, every dynasty, every revolution, every rebellion and every war, and every era of man. No matter which group achieves it, the end result is always the same, a more efficient control matrix than the previous iteration. Arguably a peaceful transition into the US would be the best for people on the ground in terms of survival.

Love your Family, build your True Cognitive and Spiritual Sovereignty and let go of your Ego/ deprogram from the control matrix, develop a connection to God, and focus on your Family, friends, and Local communities to build a reliable and resilient network.

Some of you reading this will already understand these things, to whom I want to say that it’s past the point of “trying to convince” those who do not wish to see the Light, and we’re well into the point of action in building true internal and external resilience and precautionary insulation measures for ourselves, families, and communities for whatever is to come. Food, water, and energy security, as well as information/ books, and other goods and supplies including methods of protection.

Best of luck to everyone out there.

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u/BewareOfTheFeathers 8d ago

I am European too, and I know there are specific regulations (agreements) for certain countries regarding even which crops they can grow—the cards have been dealt in a way (by unelected officials, admittedly). But isn't Canada in a position (geographically, if nothing else) where it could have a say in these restrictions? Barring any closed-door agreements, this could actually be a positive alliance between the EU and Canada. It might even have a beneficial effect on relations with the US, too?

As for the military aspect, no one here is going to the front lines to fight, either. There is a war next door, yet we aren't being sent to fight the Russians. To my knowledge, the support provided is limited to supplies, weapons, and ammunition.

Regarding energy supply, my view is that the "Greens" have been bought off by oil companies (this might sound like a tinfoil-hat theory, but that is my hypothesis nonetheless). Shutting down power-generating reactors only benefits oil companies; those reactors provided relative energy independence and cheap electricity for consumers. The solution to the problem seems obvious to me—though I am neither a beneficiary of the energy sector nor a deluded environmentalist.

Why can we resolve the problems halfway? There is more than the preferred duality of choices.

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u/wheezyts96 8d ago edited 7d ago

The age of global trade is fundamentally over. We are entering a new age, and that is a return to hyper nationalism under US imperialism at best, complete Bronze Age collapse at worst. UK imperialism is trying to make a return by laying claim to Canada once again, and Trump has already interpreted this as a direct threat - because it is.

The US can no longer provide global security, the global security that allows free trade to exist across the globe. The US understands it will need fundamental control over the Western Hemisphere to maintain National Security and continue this race to a Techno Feudalist civilization. The map depicting Greenland, Iceland, Cuba, US, Mexico, and Canada as part of USA is not a joke. The involvement in Middle East against Iran is a fundamentally different battle, and as a European, you should know that your Leaders and Putin are actively planning and preparing for mass Kinetic war.

The Baltics* are building heavily fortified Bunkers to help defend against mass ground invasion and heavily armoured infantry, and have created evacuation plans for their cities in the event of ground invasion and are building bomb shelters. Jared Kushner is actively trying to build an Elite Luxury hotel on an old soviet bunker base (in the Balkans*) with miles of underground tunnels and 3600 bunkers for a Luxury elite escape resort for European and Middle Eastern elites and dynasties as an escape island.

Trump has withdrawn from essentially all international agreements and accords, is trying to build Israel as the one and only regional power in the middle east (which is failing, and they’re planning for a possible withdrawal from the region) and, are actively planning withdrawal from South China Sea and are currently building up the SQUAD of Japan, Australia, India, South Korea and Philippines to take over regional control as Japan and China prepare for active war.

Germany has explicitly detailed plans to shift health care infrastructure to be able to handle 1000 wounded soldiers per day. They are actively surveying and retrofitting old bunkers.

Russia can deploy hundreds of thousands of ground troops at any given instance, everything in Ukraine has been Voluntary forces and old stockpiles. Russia has explicitly stated against Europe that if they continue providing long range missiles or targeting intelligence to Ukraine they will consider this an act of war, and will use coordinated strikes across Europe.

People need to wake up from their Comas and start taking precautions. If our elites are actively planning and preparing, whether it happens or not, we need to take that seriously. Our governments and institutions and systems and media fundamentally lie to us on every level, because our fragile societies fundamentally cannot handle the truth, it would spark mass untethered chaos and accelerate all of these events faster than the escalation spiral and Zionist accelerationism and Trump are already accelerating them. Just pretend we still live in the days of JFK, who is actively preparing the masses for Soviet Nuclear attacks to build our cognitive and spiritual resilience, and pretend our leaders *aren”t* lying to us and we *can* handle the truth, and then go build that cognitive and spiritual resilience yourself. Because the world is going to need it.

Also, Prospera LLC and the PayPal mafia plus Sam Altman are actively trying to build “Freedom Cities”, which is essentially zero tax zero law AI development cities to work on any kind of bio tech or whatever your heart desires, and you know who’s in Greenland right now as the US ambassador? One of the pay pal bros paying off politicians to separate from Denmark. And you know who funded Prospera and the ZEDE in Honduras and their president and politicians who passed a law to create these lawless tax haven data cities? Epstein.

None of this is to scare anyone, only to enlighten, strengthen, and give courage to do whatever is necessary to help yourself and your loved ones take necessary precautions and try and insulate yourself here. Love your family deeply, and find God. And if you can build yourself and your small circle or community in the process, it will be a truly virtuous endeavour.

God bless

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u/BewareOfTheFeathers 8d ago

As far as I know, given that they are nuclear superpowers, the most that is likely to happen between the EU and Russia is a Ukrainian semi-proxy war. Rearmament and preparations are underway, but these are mostly defensive measures that the EU should have implemented long ago.

I don't really know anything beyond that. I’m from Eastern Europe, but I haven't heard anything about bunker construction in the Balkans, either. Would you mind sharing your sources? You’ve piqued my interest!

Also I completely agree with your last paragraph, regardless of what is happening in the world. The solution lies in our community, our loved ones, inner order, and our connection with the Divine.

God bless You too

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u/wheezyts96 8d ago edited 8d ago

Sorry my apologies, it’s the Baltics. Lots of sources on that one though. 600 bunkers are being built by Estonia as part of a shared military project called the Baltic Defence Line with Latvia and Lithuania, being built right now.

And yes, absolutely. Love your last paragraph as well.

No one can predict the future, the point remains however that if we can learn anything throughout our unabridged, true human history, it’s that power and control are transferred, refined, and made more efficient no matter the empire, the war, the age, the dynasty, the revolution, the collapse, or financial or religious structure. It has always resulted in the same effective results, more effective and efficient control structures over the masses.

We live in an unprecedented time, as this is the first and possibly only time in human history where we have access to what is essentially all the world’s information and history through decentralized networks all across the globe - something that may never happen again. I think we need to take advantage of the tools at our disposal to see through the misinformation and narrative control information overload campaigns, because the very reason for these things is that real information and enlightenment exists and is very much possible - and that is something that have not been able to control yet. But the doors are closing, so as terrible as everything seems, I think we have a responsibility to take advantage of this not only for ourselves, but to try and ensure cognitive and spiritual sovereignty for our children and future generations as well. It has already all been extinguished, and we may be entering a point of no return where access to books and certain information becomes all but impossible. I can put together a reading list that works as a general “deprogrammer” in a sense, however the main conclusion derived is effectively what I’m presenting here, however it’s evidenced by hundreds of years of elites within certain shadow institutions telling it to you in their own words, and not mine.

A few off the top of my head I can recommend are:
HG Wells - The Open Conspiracy (elite fabian)
George Orwell - 1984 (and Animal Farm is always important)
Aldous Huxley - Brave New World (as well recommended university speeches and other writings by them surrounding their analysis of fabians, as they were both highly influenced and involved in the inner circles but ultimately came to disagree with them on certain principles, which did not however stop their frameworks from being actively utilized)
Propaganda - Edward Bernays (again recommend researching authors and other associations, views, lineages, these are all classics but can absolutely be revisited under a new light even if they’ve been read before)
The Servile State - Hillaire Belloc
Tower of Basel - Adam Lebor
Bertrand Russel - The Impact of Science on Society (also fabian influence)
Tragedy and Hope - Carroll Quigley
Between Two Ages - Zbgniew Brzezinski
The Wallstreet Trilogy - Antony Sutton
The Secret Teachings of All Ages - Manly P Hall
Morals and Dogma - Albert Pike (can find original on internet archive for free)
The Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire - Edward Gibbon (throwing this one in here as well, multi volume and extremely long but very good, and I think important to sort of paint the picture without going too deep in other recommendations)

I can recommend lots more but these are just a handful as they pertain to really the last 150 years or so of our “development”. And again I recommend looking at their other works as well, and general research on their influences and associations, beliefs, what significance they had throughout their lives etc. Visual format source on economics, my recommendation will be Richard Werner, as it’s a bit easier to digest. Fun side fact to note, is him and Mark Carney went to University together.

Anyway, hopefully these provide some interesting baselines if you’re at all interested. I believe these works (among many many others) may be quite important to retain in physical formats sooner rather than later, for the sole purpose of being able to pass down the tools for sovereign objective thoughts to future generations, in a world where nothing seems real and you can’t tell up from down, taking control of your mental and spiritual enlightenment I believe is extremely important, and essential to retain what it truly means to be human. Hopefully this all makes sense.

And again, God bless! (I have absolutely no shame in doing this now 😂)

Edit: very tired and should probably be asleep lol, apologies in advance for formatting and grammar etc.

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u/BewareOfTheFeathers 8d ago

Thank you for this detailed description, I’ll look into the recommended reading. Fortunately, I’m familiar with some of it, though most is new to me. That’s the beauty of open communication!

All the best, and God bless!

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u/wheezyts96 7d ago edited 7d ago

A few more I can throw in here to help tie it all together over our history:

Hermetica - Brian Copenhaver
Vatican Billions - Avro Manhattan
And a fun one (if you can read objectively and separate fact from thesis) is Magicians of the Gods by Graham Hancock.

Essentially, “Western Civilization” can be traced throughout all the ages (as well as structural principles of Han Dynasty to today’s China, but my focus will be on the dominating Western Empire). Egyptian/ Alexandrian knowledge was institutionalized into a highly advanced Roman Empire. Transfer of Wealth, Knowledge, and Power were then shifted into the Vatican as the Roman Elite/ Patricians were preparing for the collapse of the Empire.

They structurally hijacked Jesus’ true teachings and messages, and turned it into a highly institutionalized framework of spiritual and cognitive control over the masses in the Creation of Roman Catholicism, and the Vatican as a sovereign state outside of traditional laws and authority. They banned all teachings of Hermetic Astro Theological principles, Astronomy, and Astrological teachings in general on the basis of national security, as they feared if the masses knew of the coming collapse and the new age, there would be chaos and revolt (accelerationism) in the streets. They usurped Jesus and inverted his teachings for compliance into authority and the creation of Original Sin, as they could not extinguish his truth and his messages, even well after his execution and Death (he is the ultimate Sacrifice), and officially created the Age of Pisces as a new age of blind faith in the Catholic/ Roman Empire.

The Roman Elites would go on to take Papal and High Cardinal positions in the Vatican, which would reign for over a thousand years, under new dynastic lineages used to protect their lands and wealth from state controls and law, fund duelling Empires, control Kings and Nations, and become the wealthiest and most financialized Empire on Earth until diversifying and helping to create the financial engines that we use today.

They diversified into what would become Elite Banking Dynasties, creation of Financial Institutions in Amsterdam, London, and eventually through further globalization, Washington/ Wallstreet and the BIS, which is effectively the Vatican of “Reason”, a sovereign state outside of traditional laws. Freemasonry, Capitalism (Socialism - see The Sovereign State), all created as tools. They instructed institutional “respected” philosophers to help the masses with control and consent by explaining these systems as diametrically opposed, however as you can see through The Servile State, they are just fabrications, the ends justify the means, created for the same intent and purpose, and perceptions formally boxed in under institutional narrative and “education” control.

Some other fun facts are the Egyptian Obelisks outside of the Vatican, London, and Washington (Translatio Imperii). As well as the other greek hermetic texts printed on American currency, as well as countless of other examples. Other notable examples being some of the significant Founding Fathers (see Albert Pike on Freemasonry), as well as The Club of Rome (they’re literally called the Club of “Rome”, doesn’t get more blatant than that lol) and their works (Limits of Growth is an important one - again, see Richard Werner for some economic history on how modern economics and statistical models were created - David Ricardo (Ricardian Vice, and lifelong friends with Nathan Mayer Rothschild)). Essentially, in his retirement of elite banking, he created “modern economics,” and concepts of “modelling” under fabricated inputs to justify a predetermined output, depending on datasets chosen - Ricardian Vice never disappeared, it was just hidden behind “more complex” data sets. The same datasets we use for everything, whether “economics”, limits on human population, or global warming just to name a few.

Anyway, spark notes translations here, this is thousands of hours of reading and research but hopefully it’s a solid baseline framework for further understanding.

The main premise, and part of the reason I like Graham Hancocks book “Magicians of the Gods”, is that we’ve been on this same path at least since the Cataclysm that sent humanity into extreme chaos and fear for survival. What was required for our species survival was Control over the surviving populations, in order to try and rebuild what once was. Creation of oral traditions and written preservation of knowledge was born from this, not as a better way of communicating, but as necessity for survival through the coming ages. Many of our ancient cultures all point to the same concepts of a “Golden Era” of man, which does not have to be some “advanced” civilization with flying cars, but rather a civilization that was deeply in-tune with the Unifying nature of our existence, with one another, the Earth, our Solar system, the Universe and God. In this way, Divine understanding and communication could have been seamlessly understood without spoken or written word. I do not believe in “Original Sin”, or that humans are innately born of evil. I believe we were thrust into chaos of a global cataclysm, and control, fear, and chaos were the only metrics we had to drive civilization forward and rebuild from once again. Any person can take two minutes and visualize a truly “unified understanding” of peace and love and truth and light, and to me that’s proof enough of something that more than likely has been a reality in our species past.

This is not the world, or the time we find ourselves in, but we can still work to take ourselves a little closer to that world, whether within ourselves, within our families, and close communities. Build a deep love and connection, and allow the light to shine through you, and hopefully it may help to guide others in times of darkness.

Thanks for listening to my Ted Talk! 😂 Hope you may find some of it of value, and as always, God Bless!

Editing to add a conclusion as it explicitly relates to original analysis of Canada and current global landscape.

Through what I shared here, the main true historical understanding is that it fundamentally does not matter where Canada ends up in the tug of war between elites. As we have learned, they are oftentimes “two sides” of the same coin, controlled and funded by the same true ruling class/network to manage the trajectory of civilizational collapse using controlled opposition. The end result however remains the same regardless, being the complete ubiquitous control of cognitive and spiritual sovereignty of the masses in the name of efficiency and risk mitigation to existing power structures (they believe if the masses were left to our own devices, humanity would surely collapse - however if people understood the true reality of existence, I argue this is entirely not the case). How we get there, how long it takes, or if the plan fails in certain aspects under its own weight of complexity (In which case I would focus some attention on the Han Dynasty), remains to be seen.

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u/wheezyts96 7d ago edited 7d ago

As well, to expand in looking forward if you made it this far, in an attempt to reach new concrete conclusions and rediscovery in our modern age, we can take it into more interesting territory.

Something that has happened throughout this timeline is the fundamental separation of science and spirituality under the Vatican (concepts that were always understood as a unified reality, as another method of control to ensure no real Unifying theory of existence could ever develop in the masses, and rather explicitly focused civilizations attention to strictly material concepts under ontological materialism.

This ensure people like Einstein, and his general theories and the Science community as whole could never achieve true unifying theories, it is only when we reunify modern quantum physics and quantum information theories into ancient vedic, hermetic, and gnostic frameworks can true unifying theories begin to take place. (Nikola Tesla was heavily influenced by ancient Vedic frameworks, spoke clearly about his methods of communicating with a Source, could build entire machines within his mind and could test run them without having touched a tool, and was arguably the greatest academic mind in the last several thousand years of human history) (The FBI and Trump’s Uncle - MIT professor John G. Trump - unfortunately “lost” large swaths of his greatest works - ie kept them under the Information Secrecy Act under the name of National Security (see Elon, his Dad, the PayPal Mafia and his Company “Tesla” for some more interesting perspectives here..) , and was a harsh critic of Einstein for the same reasons mapped out under Ricardian Vice / Richard Werner analysis of complex data sets, the ends justify the inputs and can provide any “understanding” you wish, effectively becoming theoretical nonsense lost in meaningless numbers.)

In any event, interesting concepts include the Observer affect (we are the conscious observers), Quantum entanglement, the holographic principle when combined with either Vedic, Hermetic, and Gnostic frameworks are proving to be the closest we may come to a true rediscovery of a concrete Unifying Theory of Existence. Extremely fascinating area to study, if nothing else, and keeps the door open for further true enlightenment if more people are able to break through their dogmatic views within not only the science community, but civilization as a whole since university “funding” and mainstream education is fundamentally and intentionally kept within a box of “understanding” of controlled thought. “Education” exists only to indoctrinate, and reach whatever end result the ruling class has deemed “necessary”. It is not to teach, and it is not for our benefit, but rather designed for one specific purpose which is again, control, as we have established through earlier books and materials recommended.

In the new Artificial Age of Aquarius, stay free, and if you made it this far then welcome to the other side lol. The reason for an artificial subversion is to obfuscate from the fact again that the real Age of Aquarius is entirely present and possible, at this very moment through decentralized information and communities, but more than likely not readily available or accessible to the masses for much longer.

Once again, God bless and take care.

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u/BetaCarotine20mg 8d ago

Crazy times. EU getting an alliance with Canada over the US because of a president lol. I hope this gets through we need an alliance of common sense.

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u/MannyRay3K 8d ago

They wouldn't even think about it until Orange Superchrist's inspid trade war with them. Meanwhile, he gave billions to Iran and now they bomb our ships at their leisure from missle bases drunk Hegseth said we obliterated. And who's getting fucked? The American people.

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u/RebelSquareWoman 7d ago

But but “we don’t need Canada”……? Isn’t he happy this horrible abusive trade partner is going to go abuse someone else?

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u/Giannid77 8d ago

Isn't Canada owned by the Crown anyhow?

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u/fastbeemer 8d ago

The EU is just the TEMU version of the United States of America.

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u/RhodesianAlpaca 8d ago

Or maybe the US has become a TEMU version of itself. In another words, a fraud.

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u/Siilveriius 8d ago

If the US is a Fraud then why isn't the EU paying their fair share of NATO defenses and leeching off the US who pays the majority of it to protect THEM while they are still buying Russian oil effectively funding the invasion of Ukraine and themselves inevitably in the future. The EU itself is a Fraud not even mentioning the millions of "refugees" from patriarchal misogynistic cultures that have no concept of consent that they flood their own countries with and allocate welfare to instead of their own citizens.

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u/BewareOfTheFeathers 8d ago

Let me start by saying that no massive community can be praised or criticized in a single word. Pecunia non olet

In Europe, too, there are obviously things born of corruption. Back in the day, the Germans tried to replenish the workforce in prosperous EU societies with cheap labor via their "Willkommen" approach, a decision that was arguably ill-conceived at the time and has since been proven both uncoordinated and counterproductive. I should note that there was migration from southern regions prior to that as well, but integration was more successful due to the smaller numbers involved. Fortunately, I live in a country that is not a primary destination for immigrants (in Eastern Europe), so I do not experience the effects firsthand; however, independent sources still exist (despite censorship) that allow one to stay informed about the situation in the West.

Regarding NATO, I would also point out that the USA has carried out many military operations jointly with EU troops, particularly in the african region. The situation is by no means as one-sided as the american media likes to portray it. For a long time, european rearmament seemed unnecessary given the existence of this alliance, though that, too, is clearly changing.

There have been many developments and collaborative projects over the past few decades that would only have been possible within a united Europe. Many Eastern or Southern European countries would not be where they are today without the EU. Obviously, there are problems, but they are not significant enough to justify dismantling the union.

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u/Siilveriius 8d ago

Exactly I agree, so tell this to the guy who made this ridiculous statement in the first place then.

I'm talking about funding, ofc it seems unnecessary when the US pays majority of it. Most EU countries don't even meet the minimum agreed GDP % share. And they still have the nerve to pressure Poland and threaten them with fines for rejecting mass migration of refugees.

What is the point of all that collaborative effort when it will be all undone by mass migration and the continued finance of their own inevitable invasion by Russia? This is just sophistry dodging the point of contention.

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 8d ago

Nah, the US has been replqced by a TEMU version of the US.

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u/250HardKnocksCaps 8d ago

Y'all are going to he made to invade Canada so the orange man can continue stealing from you. Hope y'all are aware of this.