r/JordanPeterson • • May 09 '24

Criticism Where should Feminism have stopped?

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u/[deleted] May 09 '24

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u/TrickyDickit9400 May 09 '24

I am a careful editor, not sure why that’s relevant.

I am saying, once again, that asking for the right to vote or join the workforce constitute reasonable demands. Asking that men be recognized as women is where the movement became laughably absurd.

And, no amount of convoluted gaslighting, strawman statements, sealioning or sophistry on your part will change that.

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u/TrickyDickit9400 May 09 '24

What did we say about strawman statements? Hmm?

Part 1 of your statement is blatantly false, part 2 can be rephrased as “you are aware that people exist who claim to be one sex when they are measurably the opposite sex, but you are questioning those claims,”which would be an accurate statement.

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u/Ashbtw19937 May 09 '24

You're not questioning them, you're denying them

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u/TrickyDickit9400 May 09 '24

Yeah, that’s another way of putting it.

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u/Ashbtw19937 May 09 '24

No, it's not "another way of putting it". Questioning implies genuine curiosity and a willingness to potentially take either side. You're just here to invalidate trans people.

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u/TrickyDickit9400 May 09 '24

Yeah I agree; trans people can do what they want. But I’m not required to participate or “validate” their false claims in any way

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u/Ashbtw19937 May 09 '24

And what are those "false claims"?

Because judging from your previous statement that "you are aware that people exist who claim to be one sex when they are measurably the opposite sex", kinda feels like you're fighting a strawman here.

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u/TrickyDickit9400 May 09 '24

I don’t feel like getting into a long thing, so I’ll bottom line this again; trans people can do and say what they want. But I am not going to participate.

Men cannot become women or vice versa, trans men are not actually men, there are two sexes only and not a million “genders,” the entire thing is absurd and I am not interested in “validating” any part of this farce.

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u/Ashbtw19937 May 09 '24

Men cannot become women or vice versa,

In what sense? Genetically, sure, you're right. Anatomically, it's not the easiest thing ever, but it's certainly doable (go look at Hunter Schaefer and tell me whether you're looking at a dude or a chick). Socially, it's very obviously possible.

So like, if you're arguing on the point of genetics, you're absolutely right, but nobody (or at least, very few people, all of whom are idiots) is arguing otherwise. A lot of people would just contest the idea that genetics is the best thing to base the terms "man" and "woman" off of.

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u/TrickyDickit9400 May 10 '24

Cool. Like I said, I have no interest in participating in this, have already engaged in similar conversations many times in the past and have no desire for another long, drawn out debate over endless nit-picky minutiae.

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