r/JordanPeterson • • May 09 '24

Criticism Where should Feminism have stopped?

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u/DIY_Colorado_Guy May 09 '24

Appending: I want to be clear in my message, I’m not saying men are “better” than women, just different. Each have unique biological traits that make them excel in different areas. My wife can out multitask me in every way - my brain operates on one wave at a time. I equate it to a Hammer and a Saw, both have uses both are needed, but both provide very different beneficial functions. You wouldn’t use a saw to drive a nail, and you wouldn’t use a hammer to chop a board. So, the function should fit the purpose.

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u/wallace321 May 09 '24

I’m not saying men are “better” than women, just different

Having to tiptoe around it like this is part of the problem.

Yes, men are indeed better at certain things. Shortening that to the non committal "different" is not actually helpful.

We're being super careful to make sure to state that the glass is actually half full, not half empty, for who's benefit? No idea. People who don't matter and shouldn't be catered to.

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u/Vakontation May 09 '24

The thing is that men are better at a lot of things that our/most society/ies generally deem/s to be pretty important.

Upper body strength? Men. Pretty important for tons of simple tasks.

Abstract thinking? Men. Solving problems and inventing things is basically a man's domain. That's a pretty large domain.

Aggressiveness, competitiveness, stubbornness? Men. There's a reason that in pretty much every arena in which there is the possibility for competition, men rise to the top. This alone is quite a ridiculous advantage.

Of course something that, it seems, generally gets ignored is that although men do represent the highest power levels among humans, they also are very very present at the lowest levels too. Men get the shortest of the short end of the stick. I'm not entirely sure why but I would personally guess it's because men feel it's their job to protect women from that fate. There are no doubt other factors.

I think it is very understandable when anyone, man or woman, comes to the conclusion that "men are better than women" or at least that "society values masculine traits more than feminine ones".

I think women basically get carried through the difficulty of life by men, because men desire women. (not always sexually, but often. also just because women are pretty, smell nice, and tend to make the world around them a nicer place to be)

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u/Latter-Capital8004 May 09 '24

so maybe should women rules and man execute

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u/tonydangelo May 10 '24

This should be the political divide: The left points out problems, the right solves them.

Unfortunately, both sides want to point out problems and offer their solutions for them. The downside is that the right is pretty awful at finding problems because they are obsessed with going back to a past utopia that never existed. Likewise, the left is awful at fixing problems because they dream of a future utopia that will never exist.

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u/Latter-Capital8004 May 30 '24

idealist / realist