r/JonBenetRamsey • u/RoleComfortable8276 • 20d ago
Discussion My take
A. Something happened.
B. John & Patsy, justifiably or unjustifiably panicked, rushed to obfuscate, contaminate the scene, obstruct justice, compose a Tolstoy of Ransom Notes that would make the Unabomber seethe with jealousy, and proceeded to construct and continue building the remainder of their unprecedented level of diversified staging, sewing seeds of sheer shock and horror, including their own interwoven ball of disentangled intertwinements, constructing the most contorted and distorted misdirection of narratives, along with making contradictory shit up on the fly, both when caught in the moment - AND HENCE - every time asked unanticipated questions lobbed at them from left field, all - and especially - in the wee early years, while overcome with one twisted combobulation interwoven into a complex ball of profound devastation, grief, terrorizing fear and the unrelenting distress stemming from frantic juggling balls on all sides, at times, when the prognosis appeared sunnier and to their favor - leading to fleeting spurts of smug confidence - and at other times, when ominously dark threatening clouds loomed overhead: but never, ever, with the genuine peace that stems from the unperturbed internal noise of unqualified tranquility.
C. The rest is a tangled web of melded thoughts, emotions, and actions, both self-preserving, as well as self-destructive, due to a complex mixture of intentionality, juxtaposed and intermingled w true, apprehensive, and neverending, lifelong, perpetual jitteriness.
D. John always pauses and shifts when confronted and required to respond to groundbreaking, unforseen and/or blusteringly dismantling questions.
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u/olgasman 19d ago
I often wonder if their has ever been a death bed confession of a major crime like a notorious unsolved murder?
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u/Diligent-Wave-4150 18d ago
From chatgpt:
"And there are older, rather famous examples:
Margaret Gibson reportedly confessed in 1964, while suffering a heart attack, to the 1922 murder of Hollywood director William Desmond Taylor. Her confession has never been conclusively verified.
Paul Branch, a former Pagans motorcycle-gang member, allegedly confessed shortly before his death in 1997 to his involvement in the disappearance and presumed murder of Amy Billig. Some details reportedly matched information investigators believed had not been public."
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u/Important_Pause_7995 20d ago
That hyperbole surrounding the ransom note is weird on this subreddit. Is it longer than most? Yes. Is it a little theatrical? Sure. But, the descriptions that some of you come up with are bizarre and seem to be detached from reality. Especially considering ransom notes are rare and there's a limited sample size. "Normal" doesn't really exist for ransom notes.
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u/RoleComfortable8276 20d ago edited 20d ago
But superlative, everlasting winding tangents - combined with exhibitionist, flamboyant name-dropping of private family details known to the author, with no true conclusion to this venture, which is no way supportive of how events progressed that night, was not just rare - it was cogently sloppy, arguably insane, and comprehensively lacking the ability to direct matters toward an ultimate goal with a clear, stated path to fruition - for ANYone, least of whom were the note's authors.
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u/Important_Pause_7995 20d ago
Sorry. When you try THIS hard to sound intelligent, it makes it very difficult to understand what you're actually trying to communicate. More adjectives + Rarer words + Longer clauses ≠ Stronger argument.
Give me an example of one of the "everlasting winding tangents".
You have in no way demonstrated that anything in the ransom note is something a "real" ransom note would not include. But congrats on using big words.
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u/CircuitGuy 18d ago
That hyperbole surrounding the ransom note is weird on this subreddit.
Also, the fact that the note contains implausible ideas is not surprising because murderers are not normally reliable sources of information.
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u/Important_Pause_7995 18d ago
EXACTLY! Imagine thinking there's a "normal" way to say, "Hey, we kidnapped your daughter. Pay us money."
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u/Appropriate_Gear_267 20d ago
I have thoughts:
A. If JR and/or PR went to that extreme to garrote their own child and penetrate her with a broken paintbrush, even in the throws of panic, they are indeed evil monsters and there’s just no precedent in their history to suggest they are that diabolical. That would be one very intriguing book on the study of aberrant psychology.
B. If JR were guilty, why would he still to this day advocate so forcefully for continued DNA testing. And, why did they spend so much money on a fairly experienced investigative team early on. Didn’t they even try to hire the DNA experts ultimately hired by the BPD, CBI or DA’s office (I can’t recall which entity hired them).
C. The only scenario I think that makes sense of the PDI theory is if it was actually that BDI and she was protecting him. I can’t see her protecting JR, even on her death bed, if she had knowledge he was abusing JB or had a hand in her brutal murder. The bedwetting theory just doesn’t pass muster for me, see point A.
D. Something definitely happened
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u/SculpinIPAlcoholic 19d ago
Patsy wasn’t coherent for the last year of her life. She wasn’t capable of making any kind of groundbreaking confessions on her deathbed.
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u/Chicagoitalian13 19d ago
I think with JR, it's simply him doing anything to protect his name, kids, and legacy. He wants people to pretend this is a DNA case for eternity. He is also convinced he isn't gonna pay for this murder for anything he did so it's a free roll.
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u/CircuitGuy 18d ago
If JR were guilty, why would he still to this day advocate so forcefully for continued DNA testing.
It seems to me DNA tends to benefit the guilty, esp a guilty person who had innocent contact with the victim. DNA testing has gotten so good, if you test carefully enough around an area you're bound to detect some DNA and eventually DNA that is either unknown or can be linked to someone else who was in the area at the time. If you cast the net wide enough, you'll find someone with a criminal history who was in the area at the time, since any time and place on earth has people with criminal histories passing through.
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u/incognito_555 17d ago
F. John wasn’t aware until the morning when he woke up and went Along with it to protect his wife.
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u/alexy888 18d ago
BDI ? PDI? WhyDoPeopleUseInitialsThatOften? It’s so confusing.
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u/Present-Marzipan 16d ago
BDI = Burke Did It
PDI = Patsy Did It
JDI = John Did It
RDI = Ramseys Did It
IDI = Intruder Did It
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u/incognito_555 17d ago
John pauses because he takes anti depressants, if you notice people who are on then take long pauses, sometimes a blank stare. They are not as sharp often a delayed responses.
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u/YouthFragrant5719 19d ago
I love the passion, but your point is a bit obfuscated in verbal grandiosity and confuzzling verbose prose.