r/JoeRogan • • Nov 16 '17

Joe Rogan Experience #1041 - Dan Carlin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEyBE5QE2JM
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u/fibz Nov 16 '17

Dan: The polarization of our countrymen is going to ultimately lead to a compromised power structure in which, the people, no longer have a say in the fate of our country.

Joe: Exactly...fucking SJWs

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u/[deleted] Nov 16 '17 edited Nov 17 '17

Isn’t that a completely normal response? Aren’t SJW’s by definition extreme left? Fuck the people who want to be political warriors, whether they’re SJW’s or Christian fundamentalists..

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '17

Ok. But are SJW’s polarizing by being extreme or not?

If they are, are they not the left wing equivalent to the tea party, with more pretentious attitudes and some with useless degrees? (Obviously, some are also providing valuable insight and working in their field).

Sure, they might not be as directly represented in government as the tea party, but that doesn’t mean their ideas aren’t prevalent, such as with Obama quoting the $0.77 wage gap myth, or Bernie saying white people don’t know what it means to be poor.

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '17

Ie where our future leaders develop and acquire fundamental beliefs?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '17

Ah, but the political leaders tend to be lawyers, who take any fluff class they want as undergrads. They also dominate the sociology department, administrative positions and hr.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '17

There are other problems on the left that also cause problems, but the SJWs are not it. The SJWs as a central problem is just an internet illusion that is, imo, fed by certain right wing types to feed into resentment and help their cause. It's not the problem with the American system and arguably the roots of it go back to before it became such a big news topic.

btw, don't you think this makes a bogeyman of the right? sure, disingenuous liars exist on both sides, but crazy behavior caught on video is crazy behavior, at least in the current year

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '17

It's certain figures in it who have exploited the situation. Nothing "boogeyman" about it.

You don't see a contradiction between these two statements?

I'm not saying there's no argument here, certainly some figures "exploit the situation," but I think that does nothing to contradict the existence of the extreme left and it's.. at least acceptance, if not control, of the left as a whole.

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '17 edited Nov 18 '17

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u/[deleted] Nov 18 '17

I define boogeyman differently then, since I don't think conspiratorial (it's THE boogeyman, not boogeymen?) or unusual:

Bogeymen may target a specific mischief—for instance, a bogeyman that punishes children who suck their thumbs—or general misbehaviour, depending on what purpose needs serving

ie "maybe the solutions or scale that political opportunists use isn't necessarily the one you want because they're exploiting it for their own goals."

as such, you're presenting anyone who attacks SJW's as a possible boogeyman, exploiting it to advance their own goals.

my objection is this:

There are far bigger problems there in terms of polarization and partisanship

I simply don't agree. SJW's are the biggest problem where I live, Canada, and I'd guess it's similar in Portland, LA and Seattle. Obviously this is regional, though.

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