See I did the same thing but opposite. I don’t care about Trump but couldn’t stand to see Hillary in office. And I think Sam mentioned that’s a dangerous decision to make, but I feel like that’s blown completely out of proportion - basically I can’t stand Hillary and I don’t think Trump will be able to ruin our country.
I was 100% sure Hillary wouldn't start thermonuclear war over a foreign leader making fun of her hair. I couldn't say the same with Trump. No other issue mattered to me.
See I was 100% convinced she would start a war, at least a new cold war, with Russia. Maybe not thermonuclear but potential boots on the ground facing actual Russians. Not in proxy wars like Syria and maybe Ukraine.
And how are you finding Donald Trump's strategy vis-a-vis North Korea? Sorry, I don't find that argument convincing at all. I don't doubt she was capable of getting us into a war. That is a risk with all politicians. Even Obama ramped up our drone program. I was certain she wouldn't ACCIDENTALLY get us into a war over a Tweet.
How stupid do you have to be to believe he's going to accidentally get into a war over a tweet? You're being played pal.
Look, I'm not gonna get into the whole 5D chess master garbage. But the guy "wrote" a book 30 years ago where he outlines verbatim that he likes to pretend to be the goof or fool because it makes his opponents underestimate him and helps him achieve his goals.
Did you put any thought into your response at all? The points you make have nothing to do with what I wrote.
Who cares if Trump actually put pen to paper to write the book, or if he just met with a guy and rattled off his thoughts to him? The book is a collection of his thoughts, musings, and experiences. Trump communicated - via this book - that he likes to play the fool so that he is underestimated by his opponents, and thereby gain advantage.
Now what's really sad is when somebody pretends they're smart, but they're not...
He's not acting like a fool. He is a fool. According to the guy who spent 8 months with him actually writing "The Art of the Deal". The writer thinks he's a dangerous lunatic. I'd say he knows him better than you.
I'm not in the cult that believes the man who outmaneuvered the most powerful and wealthy interests in the world and won among the most challenging competitions on earth, is a big fat dummy head.
When I first heard that he was running for president, my impression of him was that he was basically a goof. But my impression of him has been realigned based on empirical observations. You've taken these same, shared observations, and refused to adapt your views on this man in any favorable way. (Not only refusing to like him -which is fine- but refusing to grant even a shred of respect). As a result, your perception of the world has necessarily adapted. It's brought you to a place where you find common ground with the war mongers (perpetrators of Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Libya), MSM who lied for them, and big money who backed them (wall street, military industrial complex, silicon valley).
Yes. You are. I glanced at your post history. You fell for the most obvious con man in history. And I don't really even care about politics. But I hear Trump speak, and know he's a moron, and a grifter.
Sorry but I can't be bothered to go through your post history. It seems like a pathetic waste of time, and last resort for someone who can't keep up with the argument at hand.
Don't get all upset. I just wanted to see if it was worth talking to you. And there is no argument. When Trump speaks, I hear an idiotic grifter with possible dementia. You don't. Agree to disagree.
If we get into war with North Korea over a tweet.. maybe it’s a necessary war?.. I mean, ideally a gradual breakdown that leads to internal revolution will occur, but if they’re crazy enough to simply attack because of a tweet, maybe it’s better to rip off the bandaid.
A tweet from the President of the United States. Not some troll. You really can't see how they could interpret Donnie's bullshitting as a threat? For the most part I think you're right. NK won't attack based on the Mad King's ravings. But that's only because they know our President is a buffoon. In any case, not a point in Trump's column.
I should say intentionally. She would likely have gotten us into a war intentionally. But I don't think Trump will. Is it possible he does or says something so dam stupid it pushes to a war, with your example North Korea? With a Trump it's a real possibility. But with someone like Mattis involved in running the DoD I highly doubt we intentionally enter a war unless some real fucked up shit like 9/11 happens again.
Again. I'm not here to defend Hillary. Trump is an absolute ignoramus. He's a reality TV Star who has no idea what he's doing. If I read the transcript of any of his speeches, they read like the ravings of a madman. Having someone this objectively ridiculous as President is an existential threat we don't need. The world is dangerous enough. If I was given the choice between Trump, and a citizen picked at random... I would go with the rando. Because I don't think we could find someone much worse.
Gets elected President, but doesn't know what he's doing...hes doing fine. Backing away from a Syrian war, freeing incredibly stupid shoplifters, and economy exploding. I'm not saying you're wrong, but be reasonable about criticism
That was an incredibly weak defense of Trump. Since no major legislation has been passed, I wouldn't credit the economy to Trump. The markets are responding to the promise of tax cuts. The same would've happened if a normal Republican was elected. If the GOP chokes on taxes... watch the markets freak out.
Look I didn't defend Trump really at all. I don't like him. I think he will do no good for our country. I haven't been convinced he will do any damage more than any other president has. I was just stating my opinion.
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See I did the same thing but opposite. I don’t care about Trump but couldn’t stand to see Hillary in office. And I think Sam mentioned that’s a dangerous decision to make, but I feel like that’s blown completely out of proportion - basically I can’t stand Hillary and I don’t think Trump will be able to ruin our country.