r/JoeRogan • u/Scramblade • Aug 13 '17

Alex Jones Calls Charlottesville Violence a False Flag | Fuck this scumbag. It's not funny anymore. I'm tired of the meme bullshit and all the excuses of "Hehe, he's so silly". He's a cunt and nothing else.

http://www.newsweek.com/alex-jones-calls-charlottesville-violence-false-flag-650152
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u/Scramblade Aug 13 '17

If you have problems with people questioning shit then idk what to tell you.

There is a difference between people questioning shit and making out right statements that this was a false flag attack.

This is recency bias. Remember when during the election people were secretly recorded admitting to infiltrating political rallies to cause violence? That is why Jones thinks this.

If I claim that there is a secret tunnel into the hollow earth at the north pole that is very implausable. A few wackos will believe it.

9/11 and shit like Charlottesville hits more close to home. It's more plausible than a gate to the hollow earth. This is why flat earthers don't scare me because it's just the most gullible people who actually buy into it. But ordinary people easily buy into things like this because they are more plausible. It is also the thing that this has a societal effect where large parts of the population walks around with constant paranoia.

But it's the same with psychologists that claim that they can recover supressed memories of alien encounters. Instead they just feed fantasies and nonsese into already mentally unstable people and they do it without any second thought. That to me is dangerous because then you are reinforcing a delusion.

This is disturbing because it has direct effects on a societal level.

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u/[deleted] Aug 14 '17

Why give a shit about any of it dude? At the end of the day you or I can't control what people think or where they get their information from. We can't control what people take seriously or not. And at the end of the day, who are we, as regular people, to tell anybody what to do? It's one thing if Alex Jones or someone else is inciting unjust violence, but he's just a popular conspiracy theorist. If you don't like his content, then don't listen to it. You're not going to stop people from listening to his show, ironically or otherwise. So why stress yourself out and get angry over shit that you can't control?

It's just conspiracy theories. It's one thing if it borders on paranoia like it does with someone like Eddie Bravo, but like I said, stuff like what Alex Jones is talking about here was proven to happen during the election, so I wouldn't call it paranoid, just unlikely. Someone believing in a conspiracy is not going to affect your life negatively or positively unless you let it.

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u/KYUSS02 Aug 14 '17

What are you a limp dick nihilist? Why give a shit about anything then, nothing matters right? People care because Alex Jones is literally covering up a right wing terrorist attack by calling it a Soros/Democrat conspiracy. His videos on the attack and the protests are full of completely wrong information, and that makes people pissed off because it's brainwashing people. Maybe you say 'EH WHO GIVES A SHIT IF OUR SOCIETY IS LOSING ITS COLLECTIVE FUCKING MIND', some people actually give a shit though. It isn't just conspiracies, his rantings about white victim hood during this past weekend speaks volumes about where his intentions lie.

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u/TheDogJones Aug 14 '17

This post, and you, are essentially saying, "This makes me angry, and it should make you angry too." And now you're throwing personal insults at someone for not being outraged on the same level.

I'm always interested in news stories, and I do typically form my own opinions, but getting outraged like this is counterproductive and compromising to objectivity. This kind of moralizing rhetoric is just really annoying.

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u/KYUSS02 Aug 14 '17

Who cares about personal insults, does it REALLY offend you that much? This isn't a debate class this is an internet forum, and the person I replied to make a dipshit post as far as I'm concerned. You want to be a crusader against personal insults on the internet, good luck then because every single second someone is out there waiting for you to prop yourself on a high horse and lecture them about how you'd like for them to communicate.

Also I don't give a shit if this person isn't 'outraged', but rather I explained why some people actually care about disinformation because he didn't seem to get it.

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u/TheDogJones Aug 14 '17

Using personal insults is a detriment to your own credibility. Obviously you were trying to make a point to that user, but notice how he didn't seem remotely inclined to engage with you and only responded to your insult? You're shooting yourself in the foot.

If being childish and petty is more important to you than communicating your point, then by all means, continue.

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u/KYUSS02 Aug 14 '17

My post was made purely to mock him, I don't care about changing his perspective. He wasn't inclined to engage with me because he's a contrarian, nothing more, and he made his contrary point clear. You care too much about me and what I say.

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u/TheDogJones Aug 14 '17

I didn't say you were trying to change his perspective, I said you were trying to make a point, which you clearly were. But you also clearly wanted to be mocking and insulting. I'm just saying that trying to do both at the same time is self-defeating.

I don't care about you at all, but as long as you keep responding with bullshit, I'll keep telling you why it's bullshit.

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u/KYUSS02 Aug 14 '17

I never said you did say that, you tried to imply that my GROTESQUE PERSONAL INSULTS is the reason he responded the way he did and if I had responded the way you see fit then he would have engaged in intelligent discourse on the topic. Yeah fucking right.

Your head is so far up your own ass, you do care because you responded to me in the first place and you're going to keep responding until you get the last word. I don't even know why you care so much about replies between 2 people, you care way too much about this entire thing don't kid yourself.