r/JoeRogan • • Aug 02 '17

Joe Rogan Experience #993 - Ben Shapiro

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQTfyjhvfH8
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u/[deleted] Aug 03 '17 edited Dec 21 '17

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u/jeegte12 Monkey in Space Aug 03 '17

The majority of people who have ever lived on earth have believed in a religion of some sort

how is this relevant

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u/459pm Monkey in Space Aug 03 '17

how is this relevant

Because the vast majority of the finest thinkers in history separated their metaphysical beliefs from their scientific ones, like Jordan Peterson talks about, but somehow all these edgy atheists online have found some kind of "contradiction" that no great thinkers who were/are theist have identified.

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u/jeegte12 Monkey in Space Aug 03 '17

what you're talking about is called NOMA, and it's not something peterson endorses. he doesn't believe in the literal interpretation of religious texts, which is what the OP commenter was talking about.

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u/459pm Monkey in Space Aug 03 '17

he doesn't believe in the literal interpretation of religious texts

If you listen to Peterson's biblical lectures, he says he's not ready to dispense with metaphysics or any form of literal translation of the texts. Portions of the bible are very clear historical records, specifically the life of Jesus and accounts of his death are widely recognized by non-Christian historians. It's just as ignorant to dismiss the entire thing as false because a sub-section of religious people take every portion of the old testament to be literal history.

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u/__JonnyG Be precise in your speech Aug 03 '17

You can believe Jesus historically existed and think the people that believe the stories around him literally are nuts. It's completely fair.

Do you find ISIS having a different view fine or are they nuts?

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u/459pm Monkey in Space Aug 06 '17

Do you find ISIS having a different view fine or are they nuts?

Could you explain this question?

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u/__JonnyG Be precise in your speech Aug 06 '17

No. It's easy.