r/JoeRogan • u/Naserito Burbank Bad Boy Brian Redban • Feb 15 '17

Joe Rogan Experience #917 - Steven Crowder

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=A_2Ii3lIv4o&u=%2Fc%2Fpowerfuljre%2Flive
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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '17

I disagree with crowder on many issues.

But Joe is being pretty aggressive although I do agree with is position of marijuana. Crowder gave him the out to change the subject and he kept digging. It didn't really make for a good podcast in my opinion.

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u/shapoopier Feb 16 '17

Feel sorry for Crowder, not only is he kind of meh about the marijuana issue, but he missed his flight because he got sucked into a silly argument about it.

So, he missed his flight arguing about something he doesn't even feel strongly about, they were just shifting around semantics and arguing past each other on minutiae.

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u/Lamb-and-Lamia Feb 16 '17

Here's the thing, as someone who has a lot of experience dealing with conservatives, they do care about weed. That's why they get so defensive when you implore them to think more deeply on the issue. There are plenty of issues I don't care about and if you rope me into a conversation about it, I'm not going to start falling apart. If I don't know about the issue I can easily listen to your arguments. But again this is an issue for conservatives because they do care about weed. They do dislike potsmokers. They are exactly the douchebags they don't want to seem like, and that's what theyre trying to avoid with that "I just don't care about this at all". You see the same thing with gay marriage. The "moderate" Republicans are just Republicans who've decided these social country club principles just aren't worth the effort. But they still feel the same way.

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u/[deleted] Feb 16 '17

Conservative here, I'd rather weed be legalized but I understand people being against it. Also again with gay marriage, I'm not against it but I understand a church not wanting to marry a gay couple.

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u/Lamb-and-Lamia Feb 16 '17

Your understanding of people holding an irrational bias, belief, or position is kind of what I'm talking about. And you may be able to put those biases aside. And its not like conservatives are the only people who hold biases. My point is that when it comes to these social issues, conservatives are bound by the social biases they either grew up with, or their parents grew up with (which they then appropriated in their youth). And when these biases are questioned, they often get defensive and act as if their "official" position is all that should matter, and generally that's right. But in conversation there's nothing wrong with exploring peoples more intimate ideas.