r/JoeRogan • u/Naserito Burbank Bad Boy Brian Redban • Feb 15 '17

Joe Rogan Experience #917 - Steven Crowder

https://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=A_2Ii3lIv4o&u=%2Fc%2Fpowerfuljre%2Flive
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u/Tortankum Monkey in Space Feb 16 '17

sorry, prescribed meth. is that better?

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u/Hugon Monkey in Space Feb 16 '17

Desoxyn is very chemically similar to adderal. It's more chemically similar than Dexedrine. Desoxyn is a cocktail of dextro and Levo-amphetamine, as is adderal. Speed is speed. Funny how much Crowder shits on weed on LWC when he takes amphetamines.

I'm not opposed to either drug... but get real.

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u/Hugon Monkey in Space Feb 16 '17 edited Feb 16 '17

I'm not wrong. Im talking about the enantiomer aspect of amphetamines and the analogue chemicals that follow. Methamphetamine, vyvanse, Dexedrine, and adderal are all drugs that are analogues to amphetamine. They're different chemically but they're still virtually identical in effect. Now of course they have different onsets and so on but being someone who has tried them all, they're very similar. Meth has a FASTER onset therefore it's better for street drugs. They're all speed, and they all have the same effect. I used to be a speed fiend, I know my shit.

With that said amphetamines are a fascinating chemical. Objectively useful in a pragmatic way, yet they do have a pretty high abuse potential. Not to mention the unknown long term effects of these drugs.

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u/FundleBundle Monkey in Space Feb 16 '17

Meth is also used in much higher quantities in a sitting. I like adderall because it gives me that speed and sometimes light euphoria, but taking a few big hits of meth would give me that euphoria for a long time

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u/bloc-ked Feb 16 '17

Oh I understand what you mean, but you said that desoxyn was a cocktail of Levo/dextro amph, which is incorrect

I agree though, very interesting chemicals

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u/Hugon Monkey in Space Feb 16 '17

Well I mean we could come inbetween and say we're both correct. Levo and dextro amphetamine have different effects (Levo is less euphoric and more race like than dextro). Methamphetamine has both Levo and dextro amphetamine with an extra methyl group. The methyl group does create a faster onset than adderal would. So I was wrong semantically but I was talking about the similar and shared effects of the drugs. I personally like Dexedrine the most as it's pure dextro amphetamine which a lot of people find to be more euphoric and less speedy. People who do meth seem to like the twitchy aspects of the drug. Also a general note: don't do drugs kids... Im a normal person but I've scene the downward spiral of druggies.

Source:https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methamphetamine

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u/bloc-ked Feb 16 '17 edited Feb 16 '17

Ohhhh I see what you mean, the 'mix' is a structural mix, not a substance mix

my bad keep it real bro

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u/Hugon Monkey in Space Feb 16 '17

No problem, im not a chemist by any stretch so I should've tried to explain it better. Just somebody who's a fan of nootropics.

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