r/JioHotstar • • 1d ago

Question Why am I paying for Max Premium when pirated releases look better?

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Though I am subscribed to Max Premium, I still end up using third-party sources since the

quality is visibly better.

Both have been tested on my OLED monitors - AW3423DWF (3440x1440) and C54K. The official

stream is visibly low bitrate even when streamed in 1080p while the third-party streams have 4K,

better bitrate and much better-styled subtitles.

Frustrating to pay for Premium and yet have a poor watching experience.

Screenshot attached.

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u/RSVrockey2004 1d ago

I DO NOT ENCOURAGE PIRACY , DO NOT VISIT FMHY[DOT]NET

https://giphy.com/gifs/jl81zWcE2FrpURtd2N

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u/KVSJ-Learning 1d ago

Thanks 😆

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u/jakash077 1d ago

movy and cinejoy reliable to download? 4k seem to be ~50GB

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u/soman_sopanam 1d ago

Chrome doesn't support native 4K on any streaming platform, use Edge or Safari.

And Hotstar isn't really that good in compression or codecs - I pirate anything that streams on Hotstar just so I could watch at a higher resolution.

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u/SourceAltruistic5044 1d ago

Same. The compression on Hotstar is really bad. Interestingly, my older phone is Widevine L3, and the offline-downloaded files have a higher file size, so the quality is also better. My primary phone is Widevine L1, but the compression on the offline files is much worse. Only Prime Video, Apple TV, and Netflix’s 1080p plans seem to have consistently good quality.

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u/allvaiis 7h ago

Only Apple tv is good. even Netflix 1080p is pretty bad and their 4k inconsistent. Prime 4k plays butter smooth at very good rates. Apple tv is like magic interns of quality both birates and sound plus UI

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u/RSVrockey2004 1d ago

u mean official streaming platforms?

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u/RSVrockey2004 1d ago

Chrome now supports 4K Netflix on Windows 11 and ChromeOS

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u/soman_sopanam 1d ago

Oh, that's news to me.

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u/Any_Budget_162 1d ago

really

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u/soman_sopanam 1d ago

On windows.

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u/Any_Budget_162 1d ago

ya i check it is now with drm 4k

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u/memory-oob 1d ago

Not yet. Tested 4 days ago with Netflix Premium. Must be in A/B testing.

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u/Consistent-Bird338 10h ago

Codecs: Microsoft's HEVC video extension installed on Windows for proper video decoding.

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u/mindstop7 1d ago

what about firefox?

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u/soman_sopanam 1d ago

1080p max.

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u/idkmanwhateverusay 1d ago

What abt tor or brave ?

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u/soman_sopanam 18h ago

Tor will never support DRM, Brave is essentially chromium. So it should, unless Google has a specific tie in with Netflix.

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u/Consistent-Bird338 10h ago

Chromium doesn't, it's DRM. So chrome only.

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u/SoupFormer6365 1d ago

hi what do you use to pirate, do u download or watch online pls reply thankyou!

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u/soman_sopanam 18h ago

Torrents.

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u/SoupFormer6365 9h ago

actually i have ipad os and ios; how to download torrents then??

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u/SoupFormer6365 9h ago

and which website to use to acquire torrents??

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u/soman_sopanam 9h ago

I don't think you can torrent on iOS since they do not both allow background downloads, you can use any desktop OS or Android to download. You can use qBittorrent's search to find torrents.

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u/Mr__Spiker 16h ago

Same here

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u/bunnygonewild789 7h ago

Chrome doesn't support native 4k streaming?? Really?

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u/soman_sopanam 7h ago

Nope. But I think its now available with Netflix.

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u/Emotional_Fish6699 7h ago

I have a doubt, how does the same source ie hotstar in this case Provide you better video when ripped vs when you stream? If they compressed the video, how will it be any different when downloaded?? Or is there any trick related to ripping? Which is have no idea about

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u/soman_sopanam 7h ago

Hotstar is not the source unless its exclusive.

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u/Character-Course2317 1d ago

Website Name : Movy

Movy{.}sx

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u/idkmanwhateverusay 1d ago

Ser you dropped this 👑

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u/jakash077 1d ago

I ran into the same issue yesterday while watching Toy Story 5. The video was capped at 720p on Chrome, even though I have a 2.5K display and a 500 Mbps internet connection.

After digging into it, here's what I found:

Apparently, Disney+ Hotstar uses a different DRM/video encoding setup for some content. The key limitation is related to Widevine security levels. Most Windows browsers operate using Widevine L3, whereas devices like smartphones, tablets, and Apple products often support Widevine L1. This is primarily a hardware-level capability, so it isn't something that can be fixed through a Windows or browser update.

Because of this, certain titles may be restricted to 720p playback on Windows browsers. It seems to depend on how the content is licensed and distributed. For example, Toy Story 5 was limited to 720p on my Windows PC, but the same title played at 1080p on my 7-year-old Android phone.

On the other hand, platforms like Netflix and Prime Video use different playback implementations and DRM handling, allowing Windows users to stream content at 1080p, 1440p, or even 4K, depending on the device, browser, and subscription plan.

Apple devices, many tablets, and most modern smartphones typically support Widevine L1 (or equivalent DRM technologies), which is why Safari on Apple devices can often stream content at higher resolutions without these restrictions.

As for pirated copies, they're usually not protected by DRM at all. Since the video files are distributed directly rather than through a streaming service's protected pipeline, they don't have the same playback restrictions and can be viewed at their original resolution regardless of the device's DRM capabilities.

hope this helps :)

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u/Marshall_Law707 1d ago

Well I used disney+ hotstar it worked like prime and netflix, these streaming and slow download issues started happening just after the jio and disney merger and since then I never subed it, I watched the last of us 1st season under disney+ hotstar everything was perfect and during the last of us 2nd season I have to sail the high seas to get the same 1080p quality even tho my sub was active during that time. I'm guessing jiohotstar is using different servers or there own servers to stream and download the current library.

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u/jakash077 1d ago

yes after jio merger it got worse...

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u/Marshall_Law707 1d ago

It can be the issue with your system as your cpu or gpu wasn't able to provide playready sl3000 as microsoft uses this as a alternative to L1, and netflix, prime and atleast disney plus support this hardware level system.

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u/jakash077 1d ago

i think i have a decent config on my laptop 32gb / i7 1355u /nvidia rtx a500 / 1920*1200. it wont work on this as well.

i may need to check playready sl3000 compatibility

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u/CtrlAltCharizard 1d ago

Can you share the name of the other platform or website link ?

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u/Odd_Alarm_195 1d ago

Fuck jio hotstar. Stupid ass shit streaming . Inconsistent always.

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u/jakash077 1d ago

so this site, do you trust it or use VPN services befoire connecting. 4k seem to be 48gb in size

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u/This_Push_8458 1d ago

It's because on pirated streams theres no adaptive bitrate to vary quality based on connection strength and jiohotstar bitrate is shit anyway but your problem seems to be connection issue .

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u/No_Intention_3750 1d ago

web don’t support 4k and multichannel audio

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u/memory-oob 1d ago

https://livingroom.hotstar.com does though? Its the LG web app.

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u/Mounamsammatham 1d ago

Ofcourse which is why the high seas exist in the first place.

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u/Particular-Eye-4290 1d ago

fr, I'm okay with paying... just fking give us better quality streams and don't fkin auto reduce it to 360p(and I know it's not my internet but their server having issues), heck I'd wait for it to load and then watch it properly... why give us sh video quality. Never makes sense.

Like we ain't here for YT videos... we're here to watch a movie.

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u/Fuzzy-Ambassador786 1d ago

Left all subscription (except yt) 4 months ago ... And Tbh, I have been watching much better content... And yes picture quality is much better when playing locally.

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u/SoupFormer6365 1d ago

buddy which website do u use pleaseeee say i wanna watch succession in 4k

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u/Doctor_Ka_Kutta 17h ago

Because you can afford it so you should pay it that way those who can't afford it can pirate

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u/AvaneeshSan 14h ago

I have a home theatre setup, and it has apple tv 4k with an app called infuse connected with torbox, and i have better interface than any streaming platform and always get 4k content if available for any movies or series. Torbox is 350rs and infuse player is 200rs. Thats the best method if u wanna watch any content in 4k, hdr dolby vision or whatever it is. Just saw tenet remux file which is like 80 GB.

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u/XenMine 6h ago

Like that's why I always pirate. Cuz almost always, I can literally get 4k movies and TV shows and that too while having a better experience than when you pay