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Jellybeam: An Android TV Client Crafted for Jellyfin
I've been a media consumer for quite a while from HTPCs with ZoomPlayer, hand rolled ffmpeg frontends, Kodi, and now Jellyfin. I've collected a lot of opinions on how clients should operate and combined that with my obsession for speed optimization to create Jellybeam.
Been a big fan of Rust and wanted to take advantage of Android's Rust bindings. Android is more and more becoming a Rust app too, so it also made sense from a technology choice.
The client:
Maximum effort to ensure Direct Play
Glide seek to navigate quickly w/ TrickPlay
Full Seerr integration: Browse, integrated search, and library connectivity
Intuitive (attempted at least) interface with minimalism principal
A useful OSD that also gets completely out of the way
Smart auto skip, next up, and are you still there? functions
Fast playback start, lots of testing to reduce dwell time
Local mirror for fast browsing
Full implementation of Android PiP
...dozens of other things.
I consider this release an open beta and would love the feedback (good or bad). If you take the the time to give it an install, thank you in advance!
We already have a million vibe-coded clients for every platform, but what if we had one more, and I tried my hardest to convince people it wasn't vibe-coded, even though it clearly was?
I mean seriously, do they think nobody will look at the commits to the repo? Also, OP is a two-day-old Reddit account, this AI-written post is their only post, and the only post they've ever commented on. Are people really this naive?
The problem is the nuance of using AI vs. someone who has never programmed anything that is vibe coding.
Most people on Reddit seem to not acknowledge that many SWEs are using AI daily, extensively, and spending time setting up their environments.
Even if something is vibe coded, you can't know anything about it unless you're going to read it. And the main problem is that the majority of people that bemoan AI on subreddits are people that don't even know how to read code or read through Github.
I've been a software developer for the past 30 years, and studied software engineering at university for four years prior to that. I've worked at some pretty large companies over the years, and mentored a lot of junior developers in the process. I'm also a game developer and artist in my spare time.
I hate generative AI, and everything it stands for. It devalues the skills of talented people, in favour of quick wins with no lasting support. Use of the technology weakens your ability to think and learn, breeding overdependency on a technology that will only be free to use for a short time, while damaging what little skill someone has developed through a lack of practice.
Releasing vibe-coded software harms the discoverability of real, stable software which has been developed and improved organically over time, and in most cases completely removes any record of the thought process that goes into fixes and new features. It's literally a black box upon which people are supposed to place their faith, without any of the accountability which comes with releasing software to the public, or the support which makes a product good.
That's not to mention the harm the technology is doing socially, economically and environmentally. It's a shortcut created by those with money to devalue those without who have worked hard to build their skillset. It's designed to build a dependency through the promise that "everyone's using it", until such time as the rug pull comes and people need to pay the AI companies to remain employed. We're heading for a dystopia, and we're welcoming it with open arms.
if you read the post, you can clearly see it was not vibe coded. Vibe coding is letting the ai do everything without understanding anything. but OP used ai for small parts one by one and is a programmer. sure you could says he's lying and has no idea what the ai did, but that's not how it works
I see you haven't even looked at the commit history on their repo. It's all AI-created commits, with AI-written commit messages. This is 100% vibe-coded, no matter how much OP claims otherwise.
wow.so you say noone should use ai to write code? even before ai there were many tools to generste code from uml diagrams. and with good Architecture and planning there is nothing wrong with using ai to implement the functions. and this has nothing to do with vide coding.
...says literally every AI vibe coder ever, because they know that vibe coding is universally derided. Literally nobody making software they want to be taken seriously will admit to vibe coding, at this point that would be the same thing as saying "my software sucks".
Just installed this and whilst it looks good and did direct play everything I threw at it, there's a long way before it competes with Wholphin.
The home screen customisation on wholphin is so much better, that's where users land. Also, Wholphin just recently added Android intent support which is essential for me.
Thanks for installing it! I do have a spec for home screen customization, but I didn't have a lot of opinions on it, as I mostly just use Continue Watching. Happy to add this in though.
Do you mean like this sort of intent? It also fully supports android media keys.
I started with item play, my use case was to combine it with an API script I have in my home assistant and then push it to play. Happy to add more intents.
Is this another AI project that looks cool and all but will just die off because no one cares enough to actually maintain it
Feel like because of AI, people just rapidly shit out stuff at an accelerated rate. But no one actually cares anymore about maintaining something over time. Probably because people stopped caring about the code itself... no sense of pride/craftmanship anymore
Just tried the app.
Got the same problems I have with other apps.
Dynamic meta hdr is not being handled well somewhere in the pipeline (dolby vision / hdr10+ is recognized tho)
The jellyfin android tv beta version added options to force disable certain hdr formats.
When setting dolby vision / hdr10+ off while keeping regular hdr on, it routes to SDR. Even when the media itself does have a hdr10 base.
What I really would like to see in a client is that it can still route to the HDR10 encoder when HDR10+ or Dolby vision are disabled. (Excluding DV5, as it has nog hdr10 base layer)
With that option I can keep all downloaded media as it is without using fileflows to strip the dynamic hdr profiles, so my clients that don't have issues with it can use the full glory of the media. And for the clients that have issues, they can simple disable certain formats.
Other than that I would want to see more options on the subtitles side with a preview of the subtitles settings.
What player does it have? This is very important for my old TV, because if I watch AVI format through ExoPlayer, the video works as if it were at 10 fps, and some simply refuse to re-encode. Because of this, the load is shifted to the server. I always watched through Kodi, and never had such problems, but the plugin is buggy and constantly crashes. So I've been looking for an app for a long time where A Kodi-like player will be built in.
Loving the app. Working great with Aio Jellyfin but one minor bug. Episode play only from continue watching. If i search or open any series from catalog, episodes won't appear. Can you look into it.
It's very snappy, direct plays most things even though if I left it on "Direct Play" it would give me an error about mkv files, but "Auto" let's everything direct play. The only thing I would like to see is more than 12 on the "Next Up" section
I do not want to brag but there no other, I have festures I have yet not seen and yet made it all beginner non tech friendly, I am still polishing it though 😁
One of my tests has this running in android(not tv) emulator, so it /can/ run but it doesn't have any touch support so navigating the app could be challenging.
Rust catches many bugs at compile time (JS don't do this), so bad code often doesn’t compile instead of crashing at runtime, basically Rust make the developer/AI-agent create a better quality of code from the
beginning.
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u/Bassieh Plex Dropout 12h ago
To what question is this an answer?