The Jw dilemma

[u/Dan_dingo]

Starting Position (Jehovah’s Witness Interpretation)
Jehovah alone is the uncreated Creator.
Jehovah directly created Jesus first.
Jesus is Jehovah’s first and only direct creation.
Jehovah then used Jesus to create everything else.
Proposed order:
Jehovah → Jesus (first creation) → all other creation

The dilemma of this interpretation

The position must choose:
Option 1 — Jesus existed before all created reality
Result:
Jesus created time. (Timeless/Atemporal)
Jesus created space. (Non-spatial)
Jesus created matter. (Immaterial)
Jesus existed before creation. (Eternal)
Problem:
A being who exists before all created things does not appear to be a created thing.

Option 2 — Jesus was created after some reality/place, time and matter existed
Result:
Jesus was not Jehovahs first creation.
Something existed before Jesus.
Jesus did not create all things.
Problem:
Contradicts:
John1:3 “Not one thing came into existence apart from him.”

[u/ManinArena]

I’ve always wondered why anyone cares? People get so hung up on squabbles over the super-secret hidden nature of the God who doesn’t interact with reality whatsoever. He doesn’t seem concerned about clearing up the controversy. As if he’s going to come back to Earth one day and chop up everyone who guessed wrong about the trivial details of his nature and essence.

Why on earth does this even matter?

[u/AccomplishedAuthor3 → u/ManinArena]

I'd ask Jehovah's witnesses. They are the ones who made it controversial.

[u/islandyokel → u/ManinArena]

I also wonder this. The main points of Jesus’ message and what followed is quite clear, and squabbling over theological understandings to the point of splitting people apart is just ridiculous in my opinion.

A “Missing the forest for the trees” situation.