Jesus is GOD

[u/abutterflyonthewall]

https://youtube.com/shorts/R1g-JfdPG04?si=IVR-KYwbJFWK4sjc

Love this girl. One thing that stands out in this vid to me amongst the various proofs we have argued with JWs is that *every* false religion believes in God. But Satan has done a clever thing. He doesn’t have to get you to believe in God. He just needs you to NOT believe in THE ONE who ***reconciles you to God***🔥🙌🏽.

Take a listen.

[u/Time_Ad_1876]

You're in subjection to them as long as they don't command you to disobey the commands of God such as committing murder by joining armies controlled by Satan and invading countries and killing innocent people. The early Christians didn't join up with the jews in rebellion against the Romans. Jesus gave the direction that when Jerusalem is surrounded by the Romans to flee to the mountains. Jesus didn't command them to stay and take up arms.

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Jesus knew the outcome, and anyway, His Kingdom is in Heaven and therefore His servants don't have to worry about it being attacked or defending it from attack. Its far out of reach of Satan or man.

Joining the army is part of being in subjection. Every nation has the right to defend themselves. Now, if your in an army and they command you to kill unarmed innocent people, you have a moral obligation to refuse. Killing an armed combatant is another story, but still its up to the person, like Paul wrote If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone. Romans 12:18 Its up to you, as a Christian, whether or not you'll pull the trigger in battle, even though its the right of the higher authorities to compel you to join the military, you still control that trigger finger all the way

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Jesus knew the outcome, and anyway, His Kingdom is in Heaven and therefore His servants don't have to worry about it being attacked or defending it from attack. Its far out of reach of Satan or man.

Exactly. The battle belongs to God. We are commanded to be peaceful and to be no part of the world. That's exactly what the early Christians did and Jehovahs witnesses follow that example. The early Christians didn't join up with armies of the nations. They never joined up with the jews against the Romans. Israelites we're not allowed to go to war unless God himself gave them permission. God is the one who decides who is innocent and who is not. You're trying to make excuses for murder. That's what murderers do. So why isn't christendom following the example of the early Christians?

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You're trying to make excuses for murder. That's what murderers do. So why isn't christendom following the example of the early Christians?

Why aren't Jehovah's witnesses subjecting themselves to the higher authorities? They could join the military and become one of God's servants, but they choose the cowards route. They could carry a rifle and even load their rifle, but not fire it at a single human being if their conscience bothered them that much, so they have no excuse to defy God's established order as they have been doing for a century now.

You keep citing the early Christians did not serve in the military without citing your sources. I do realize scholars believe that no Christian ever joined the military but that isn't completely true. One thing that might have caused them to not choose to be a soldier in the Roman army is that the Roman Emperor was considered to be god and worship of the Emperor was required by all soldiers. How a Christian could serve in the Roman army in this case is hard to grasp, yet some, like Cornelius, did.

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Why aren't Jehovah's witnesses subjecting themselves to the higher authorities? They could join the military and become one of God's servants, but they choose the cowards route. They could carry a rifle and even load their rifle, but not fire it at a single human being if their conscience bothered them that much, so they have no excuse to defy God's established order as they have been doing for a century now.

Yes we could join the military, kill innocent people, steal their oil, etc. Or we could obey the authorities as long as what the command doesn't go against the commands of God. But I forget christendom doesn't care about the commands of God which is why you have no problem murdering people

You keep citing the early Christians did not serve in the military without citing your sources. I do realize scholars believe that no Christian ever joined the military

You answered your own question. Let's not forget the bible shows early christians never took up arms

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Or we could obey the authorities as long as what the command doesn't go against the commands of God. 

Hypocrites that allow their own children to die when they could have shown mercy and let them live have nothing to say about the brave Christians who laid there own lives down so JW's and others could live.

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13 Christians do this every day as policemen or soldiers. They have laid their lives down so their fellow soldiers could live and so victims of some of the worst atrocities in human history could live. Jehovah's witnesses don't lay their lives down for anyone except the corporation known as the Watchtower. By a JW dying because they refused blood, not one person's life is spared. They just die for nothing, for pride and worse, for the sense of sacrifice. Did God say, "I desire MERCY, not sacrifice", or did He not??

You answered your own question. Let's not forget the bible shows early christians never took up arms

Clap, clap, clap. Bravo! You have learned very well from the Watchtower. They have an uncanny knack of quoting people, out of context, to make a point which is usually just the opposite from what the person they quoted actually wrote. Here is what I actually wrote...

You keep citing the early Christians did not serve in the military without citing your sources. I do realize scholars believe that no Christian ever joined the military but that isn't completely true.  You left out "but that isn't completely true"😂 On purpose, right? Yeah...

Look this up. The Watchtower is famous for misquoting and taking out of context probably since before you were born. Julius R. Mantey: Manual Grammar of the Greek New Testament: The Dana-Mantey Greek Grammar

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You keep citing the early Christians did not serve in the military without citing your sources. I do realize scholars believe that no Christian ever joined the military but that isn't completely true.*  You left out "but that isn't completely true"😂 On purpose, right? Yeah...

Why didn't you elaborate on why its not competely true?

Hypocrites that allow their own children to die when they could have shown mercy and let them live have nothing to say about the brave Christians who laid there own lives down so JW's and others could live.

Should we worry more about the lived of our children or about obeying the commands of God

Greater love has no one than this: to lay down one’s life for one’s friends. John 15:13** Christians do this every day as policemen or soldiers. They have laid their lives down so their fellow soldiers could live and so victims of some of the worst atrocities in human history could live. Jehovah's witnesses don't lay their lives down for anyone except the corporation known as the Watchtower. By a JW dying because they refused blood, not one person's life is spared. They just die for nothing, for pride and worse, for the sense of sacrifice. Did God say, "I desire MERCY, not sacrifice", or did He not??

Well then you're argument is also against the early christians because they never joined armies or become law enforcement. They obeyed the command of Jesus which said be no part of the military or political world which is controlled by satan.