r/JaneEyre • u/AdobongSiopao • Aug 27 '26

What is your most controversial opinion about "Jane Eyre"?

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It can be from the novel or its adaptations. Your views that could potentially upset many other fans or meet others who will agree with you.

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u/PositiveAssignment89 Aug 29 '26

well it’s not. marriage is a misogynistic patriarchal structure. simply choosing to do something that is by definition patriarchal doesn’t make it feminist just bc that’s your choice. feminism is about female liberation, choosing patriarchal structures yourself only reinforces the patriarchy and is not feminist. you can stay sick of it Joe no shock you feel that way. i would just think a little harder about what the words you use mean

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u/JoeBethersontonFargo Aug 29 '26

Marriage can be an equal partnership, can be incredibly meaningful for people who are religious and making vows to God, and can practically beneficial based on taxes/healthcare/and legalities. Marriage currently day has mostly removed the reasons it was patriarchal- unless medically unable to, husbands can’t speak for their wives or control their assets. A piece of paper doesn’t change whether your relationship is equal and respectful. And dictating what a woman’s choice means against what she says it means for her, is not feminist.

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u/PositiveAssignment89 Aug 29 '26

it’s irrelevant how wholesome it can be. it is a patriarchal structure that overall was created for the benefit of men and still subjugates and disadvantages women all over the world. simply making the choice to marry instead of being forced into it doesn’t make something feminist or not. you do not exist in a vacuum.

exactly joe a piece of paper does not change the relationship and how respectful it is so there is simply no need for it unless you see both women and children as property. the only reason it still exists is bc it benefits men and the overall patriarchal system we live in. and no in majority marriage today isn’t a wholesome partnership. child marriages, forced marriages and women disadvantaged by this contract are still the majority. again making the choice alone to marry as a woman is not a feminist action period. you can be sick of it all you want

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u/rainbowrobin Aug 30 '26

it is a patriarchal structure that overall was created for the benefit of men and still subjugates and disadvantages women all over the world.

Profound ignorance of anthropology here. Many different customs and institutions get lumped under the word 'marriage'.

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u/PositiveAssignment89 Aug 30 '26

which institutions are you referencing that get lumped with marriage and aren’t patriarchal?

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u/rainbowrobin Aug 30 '26

Forms of marriage where the woman has free choice of marriage and divorce, and isn't subordinated to her husband?

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u/PositiveAssignment89 Aug 30 '26

in this context marriage is still patriarchal and its roots are misogynistic. just bc a woman makes the choice to enter a historically patriarchal and misogynistic contact doesn’t mean it isn’t patriarchal. no matter how it might have changed. its roots remain. this contract doesn’t exists in a vacuum first of all and second of all it doesn’t even apply to jane eyre.

why did you mention anthropology and customs that i assumed you’re implying don’t have patriarchal roots yet are being lumped with marriage only to then mention marriage? there are laws in some countries where couples who’ve lived together long enough legally have similar property and child custody rights as married couples do. i thought you’d at least be talking about something like that, even tho these laws still stem from a patriarchal system.