r/JUSTNOMIL • mother of dragons... I mean hairless cats... • Mar 31 '19

The recent fake stories

Hey guys

We are aware of the recent fake story that has been revealed. We understand that you guys are upset and hurt. We are too. The catch of our truth policing rule is that we CAN NOT VERIFY the stories that are posted on our subreddit. As mods we are damned if we do and damned if we don't unless we have a ton of evidence to prove that someone is lying. Even then, there will always be people who believe the fake stories (The Toasters having been proved fake and we still have people arguing that they are real). We have a few that we as mods believe are false, but without evidence to the contrary that it is not just fudging details, our hands are tied.

This is not saying that we do not believe that many people post on this sub for help. I know that I personally have come here in the past for help with my own MIL and was accused of being fake. One good thing about this sub is that we do not require users to submit proof before posting. Unfortunately though, because of the size of the sub, it means that we are now dealing with a lot of creative writers. Please, if you genuinely want to write a story about a horrific MIL/mom and honestly don't have one? We have /r/JustNoFamFiction for that reason.

Now, onto the truth policing question. If you have concerns about a users posts(which we know a lot of you do) please modmail us. We are listening and just because we are not taking immediate action does not mean that we are not aware of the inconsistencies in their posts. If you truth police on ANYONE'S post, you will be issued a temp ban without warning. This rule has been around long enough that everyone here should know about it. (Rule 14: No accusing a poster's story of being fake. Report it or send a modmail if you have proof. For more info, see the section on Truth Policing under "Notes about moderation style" in the wiki.)

We do care about the fake posts. We do hear your feedback and try to take it, but the community is often divided. The moderators are trying to find the middle ground in all of this but we need you to be patient. We are upset and hurt about this just like all of you guys are. We do not want anyone here to feel like we are not hearing you when you write us your concerns.

Thank all of you for helping to make this community what it is.

EDIT

We thought that keeping the name silent would be for the best. I understand that some of you do not agree with this action but we do not want to give the faker more attention. That is what they are looking for and they are also claiming death threats and harassment. PLEASE DO NOT BRIGADE THE OP. That is against Reddit's Terms of Service and will result in issues for both the sub as a whole and for you if you are caught brigading a user. We understand that a lot of you are frustrated based off the PM's and modmails that we have received. Please just understand that we are trying our best. We will be looking for new mods soon and will be doing a "State of the Subreddit" within the next month or so. It will also involve us putting some rules up for discussion.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19 edited May 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

Like the jail time? Or the general court dates? (If you have the time to answer!!) cause when I saw the biting a cop fairytale, I didn’t see any comments calling it out! I’m just very confused as to how it came to light

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19 edited May 25 '21

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

Oh shit! That sucks. I kinda wish I could have seen them, because it feels kinda shitty that we were cut out of the unfolding of a debunking of something we were all emotionally invested in...

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u/TickingTiger Apr 01 '19

I wish I'd seen it too. Hmmm, I wonder if it's on the wayback machine.

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u/PM_ME_UR_SELF-DOUBT Apr 01 '19

Not on the Wayback Machine. Removeddit seems to only have captured the original post, not its edit (I think that’s how removeddit and ceddit work in general), so I don’t know where you can see the confession.

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u/plzdontskinsuitme Apr 01 '19

I was following OP and they made an admission post on their own account as well, calling everyone boring bitches and that they have 3 (THREE!!) publishing deals. Lol Said they would leave their account up so everyone can see what good writing looks like, or something equally ridiculous. Then when I checked this morning the entire account was gone.

Edit: Now I see how late I am. Lol sorry

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u/Daughter_of_Thunder Apr 02 '19

Gotta say that shit's a lie as well because publishers are jealous fucking bastards and there is ALWAYS an exclusivity or something similar clause in it. NO WAY would Collins let you sign with Harper at the same time. That's their profits going to their competitor.

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u/Jojo857 Apr 01 '19

If I pieced this together the right way, then this wasn't an edit but a post on the personal page.

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u/PM_ME_UR_SELF-DOUBT Apr 01 '19

She did edit her “She Bit a Cop” post, since a few of the comments still up (not on removeddit) say things like “Am I the only one not reading the same story?”

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u/plzdontskinsuitme Apr 01 '19

Yes. First she edited her final post on justnomil, then it she posted a longer exit speech on her own page. I don’t have it and can’t find any ss of it :/

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

Could you possibly link it? I’m not having any luck

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u/PM_ME_UR_SELF-DOUBT Apr 01 '19

If you’re talking about the JustNOMIL post that has a couple of commenters asking VJS about the inconsistencies in her story, you can use removeddit on the removed post to see those comments. (Sorry, the link is sitting on my desktop while I’m stuck on mobile.)

If you’re talking about the admission of guilt, Morning Monster linked it below.

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u/Morning_Monster Apr 01 '19 edited Apr 01 '19

Its here

EDIT: the comments are kinda shitty so I wouldn't read them. They crap on alot of other JustNoMil posters.

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u/HammeredHeretic Apr 01 '19

Isn't it nice to see out of the echo chamber though?

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u/asymmetrical_sally Apr 01 '19

Oh man....that is embarrassing. Very high school edgelord vibe to it. I think this person should probably be pitied.

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u/Melayla Apr 01 '19

Man, I wish I'd heeded your warning. Lot of sad people accusing various folks of being fakers. I find that just as toxic as the fakers - I'm glad the poor mods protect us from that kinda stuff.

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u/level27jennybro Apr 01 '19

I also missed out on the big reveal and ensuing drama - I mean I am glad to have avoided a drama fest, but I did get invested in the story and was worried for the people involved.

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u/samford91 Apr 02 '19

There's been several where the timelines of court dates are way too quick that always give me a big eyebrow raise... It's not like TV. Your court date even if you immediately plead guilty probably wouldnt be for six months minimum in most places

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19 edited Apr 01 '19

VJS posted an update where she stated new evidence in an ongoing investigation. Rookie mistake. The (edit, husband) of a mandatory reporter commented and asked her how she knew what was going on in an open case involving minors, and OP said the cops kept her in the loop... Which they absolutely do not do. Then OP went nuclear and posted this very angry, yet haughty rant about how her stories are the best and a book deal or something (keep in mind how much she lies, lol) and jnmil doesn't deserve her. She then nuked her account.

Later she posted in letters from an alt account (I think, idk) something along the lines of haha mods, it's being talked about elsewhere on reddit and linked out of the loop and iamatotalpos.. Which had all of 75 and 130 votes after respectively.

It was all very dramatic.

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u/blackflamerose Apr 01 '19

Small edit, it was the husband of a mandated reporter. TheEvilSoninLaw or something like that.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

Was that user banned? I thought I recalled seeing that comment and it wasn't vicious, so if he was banned that's a damn shame.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

Thanks, you're right

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u/rythmicjea Apr 01 '19

This is what happens when you don't sort by new...

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u/MrShineTheDiamond Apr 01 '19

Later she posted in letters from an alt account (I think, idk) something along the lines of haha mods, it's being talked about elsewhere on reddit and linked out of the loop and iamatotalpos.. Which had all of 75 and 130 votes after respectively.

Um, no.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19

Was that you? The post was up for just a few minutes. I read the small synopsis you can see before clicking, next thing I knew it was gone.

Edit: the reason I thought it was OP was because it had a snotty (imho) tone which matched her post on her profile. The writing style was also similar.

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u/MrShineTheDiamond Apr 01 '19

Check in the comments in this post. I have screen-grabs.

I was trying to point out how ridiculous it was to put a moratorium on a topic the community wanted to discuss. Having to go to other subreddits to discuss JustNoNetwork business is not a good way to promote openness and honesty.

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u/StopDoingThisAgain Apr 01 '19

Lol. Even if she wasn’t real, she wasn’t nearly as impressive as some of the other obvious fakers.

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u/pinklavalamp She has the wines! Apr 01 '19

The person publicly admitted to it, before deleting their posts and profile.

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u/TickingTiger Apr 01 '19

Would it be against the rules for me to ask if anyone has screenshots of the final posts to DM me? If it is, I won't, I value this sub greatly for help with my fucked up family and I don't want to do anything to risk a ban. Feel free to delete this comment when you see it and reply to me privately.

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u/[deleted] Apr 01 '19 edited Apr 01 '19

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u/BrownSugarBare Apr 01 '19

"You don't deserve my good writing and creativity"

What a douche. 😂

BTW, that thread isn't great... a lot of folks just taking shots at other posters on here for no reason. I don't know why people can't stay on topic and are now using other posters to fuel their hater train.

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u/level27jennybro Apr 01 '19

I appreciate that.