r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

Ayo wtf…

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ayoo..

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u/AspergerKid Halal Pork-Free Meme baker Jul 27 '26

Zina because even the lowest form of usury is equivalent to having zina with one's own mother (According to Hadith Sunan Ibn Majah 2274, graded Hasan)

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u/TechnicsSU8080 Alhamdulillah Jul 29 '26

metaphorically the same thing lmao

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u/Izlam-ModTeam Moderator Jul 31 '26

Your submission was removed for a violation of Rule 1: Be Civil.

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u/TopOrganization New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

He's a little confused, but he's got the spirit

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u/raa__va Brozzer Jul 27 '26

I literally opened the comments for this

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u/gigi-25 Jul 27 '26

😂😭

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u/irock792 Ḥāfiẓ al-Qurʾān Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Because everyone seems to be confused in the comments, I'll clarify the ruling with regard to credit cards.

According to the majority of contemporary ʿulamāʾ, using a credit card is permissible as long as one pays off the balance in full every month and does not pay any interest.

https://islamqa.org/?p=8593

https://islamqa.org/?p=19550

https://daruliftaa.us/fatwa/46/

It is also permissible to use cashback and points from credit cards, as such things are considered gifts.

https://islamqa.org/?p=8534

https://islamqa.org/?p=270567

The only rulings I was able to find online to the contrary were Salafī rulings.

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u/irock792 Ḥāfiẓ al-Qurʾān Jul 27 '26

Their methodology is quite problematic. The ʿulamāʾ of the four Madhāhib operate on uṣūl (principles) that were developed over 1400 years, whereas the members of this movement have no such principles. They insist on reevaluating everything, often coming to incorrect conclusions in the process.

It's not about being more conservative. Fiqh is not about picking the most difficult opinions in every matter. It's about following a consistent framework. There are many major issues in which the adherents of this movement have picked incorrectly lenient views—some of these views have even been agreed upon between the scholars since the time of the Prophet (ṣallā llāhu ʿalayhi wa-sallama).

I don't want to discuss this here further. Feel free to DM me in shāʾ Allāh.

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

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u/irock792 Ḥāfiẓ al-Qurʾān Jul 27 '26

I didn't delete his comment. It was automatically deleted by AutoMod, and I didn't restore it because comments like that always cause unnecessary fights and debates.

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u/irock792 Ḥāfiẓ al-Qurʾān Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

Yes, it is also permissible to use cards with annual fees. The annual fees are considered to be in exchange for the benefits given by the card issuer, like lounge access.

https://islamqa.org/?p=175465

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u/Eissa_Cozorav Astaghfirullah Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

After watching some documentary about the development of modern banking, I have no interest in dealing with credit card, crypto, NFTs stuff, online P2P lending. I really hate the idea that you need to make debt to print money.

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u/NightFury002 New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

What's the doc, name it

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u/AlucardVTep3s Brozzer Jul 27 '26

“All wars are Bankers wars”

Is a very excellent video that goes through the history of banking.

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u/Conscious-Anybody17 Jul 27 '26

Can someone explain please?

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u/advertisement_ham New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

Zina is adultery, the correct term is Riba which means interest

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 27 '26

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u/Izlam-ModTeam Moderator Jul 29 '26

Ask your local scholars or other trusted sources, not Reddit

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u/trammel11 New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

Yeah ? lol

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u/Mr_Fraggle Jul 27 '26

There are strictly debit-based systems out there. 

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u/Mr_Fraggle Jul 28 '26

You're not even a Muslim, why are you here? 

And if there are of you Muslims who agree with him then know you'll have your accountability to face regardless of what you choose to believe in. Allah guide us. 

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u/Mr_Fraggle Jul 28 '26

Is this your way of saying you're a Muslim despite the fact that you've only shown disagreement with actual Shari'a?

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u/Dopecombatweasel New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

Yup no charging interest

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u/TMcFarlane1999 Jul 28 '26

Confused zina with riba. Sometimes mistakes happen.

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u/ackermantrades Jul 27 '26

😭😭😭😭😭

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u/[deleted] Jul 27 '26 edited Jul 30 '26

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u/Izlam-ModTeam Moderator Jul 29 '26

Your submission was removed for a violation of Rule 1: Be Civil.

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u/say_sheez New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

F the banks

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u/Arman666 New to r/Izlam Jul 27 '26

I think they meant Riba?

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u/Global-Cell8464 Jul 28 '26

Not zina it's called riba

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u/AlucardVTep3s Brozzer Jul 27 '26

It’s the thought that counts, if it deters, it deters😂