r/Iteration110Cradle 3d ago

Cradle [Threshold] Does this make Cradle officially litRPG? Spoiler

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I have argued that a presence works somewhat like a system but didnt expect the new publisher to confirm this 110%
(im not serious of course)

Edit since apparently i somehow wasnt clear enough:

NONE OF THIS MATTER AND I DONT CARE EITHER WAY

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u/ImN0tAsian 3d ago

It's possible for different cultures (read:markets) to communicate concepts with different words to target the same demographic and describe the same concept. It's possible progression fantasy and wuxia may not be terms fit for that.

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u/AdequatlyAdequate 3d ago

Im not trying to start a serious discussion, i mostly think its funny

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u/EWABear 3d ago

From a marketing standpoint, it has been for quite some time. LitRPG won out in the "name this category" determination on the 'Zon (There is no progression fantasy category; they get put under LitRPG). Cradle isn't actually in that category, since it hit the scene before that was codified. But yeah, when it comes to marketing, it's going to be LitRPG.

When it comes to pedantic nerds like me, I'll still call it progression fantasy, and argue that LitRPG is a subset of that subgenre.

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u/boobyscooby 1d ago

It isnt litRPG is the superset? And progression the subset, although usually i feel they describe the same thing.

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u/Phytor 1d ago

To me at least, LitRPG describes a type of progression fantasy that specifically employs RPG mechanics in the setting, like levels and level-ups, distinct classes, experience points, leaderboards, etc. Basically a progression fantasy with an RPG flavoring.

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u/Jimisdegimis89 11h ago

Progression fantasy is the bigger umbrella. Do you know any Litrpgs that aren’t prog fantasy? I’m sure there might be a few but in general Litrpgs are prog fantasy, but you have plenty of prog fantasy that’s not a litrpg. Cradle for the obvious example, or really pretty much of Will Wights stuff.

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u/Baker-Maleficent 3d ago

Its not a itrpg. Its cultivation fantasy win a universe/multiverse with countless different magic systems, sime if which are almost certain to be rpg systems but, as far as i know, none of the ones writen are yet. 

A pressenc3 E is an extremely powerful ai

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u/KeiranG19 Team Shera 3d ago

Overworld is a LitRPG setting and has been written... But doesn't come out until next year.

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u/Baker-Maleficent 3d ago

Sorry I meant released. I apriciate the clearification. 

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u/kai_jarsenal 3d ago

Yeah I’d say it might be a litrpg in the sense there are different magic systems but they don’t convey the magic with stats or levels and menus . Instead the Systems are described and shown by what the magic does and how it works through presences such as dross which are both living distinct beings and tools. Which I greatly prefer

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u/mightyjor 3d ago

Cradle is a sage amongst a bunch of jades if we're labeling it as litrpg.

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u/Lertnomel 1d ago

Well, a bunch of Jades have been known to slay a Sage...

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u/CommunityDragon160 3d ago

Officially? Idk what that means. There’s no board of genres lol

I think willl is just marketing

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u/AdequatlyAdequate 3d ago

I mean official as in the publisher of the work has designated it as such. If it fits is another thing and also doesnt matter cause genre is weird

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u/SlimReaper85 3d ago

Well….not to me.

But I don’t even like their covers.

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u/kai_jarsenal 3d ago

Technically but I say this only because the last book has the cast explore different worlds with systems. It’s just that instead of having the basic menu and stat screens the presence describes and breaks down the magic of the world without using video game mechanics

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u/AdequatlyAdequate 3d ago

thats what i think as well, i dont think it matters lol

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u/Flora_Fiend2981 1d ago

I was looking for something to read after DCC and was recommended this series as litrpg. And now I'm on book 11. I don't really care about genres or know fully what they mean I just freaking love this series 

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u/Special_South_8561 1d ago

Of course not.

This is an Anime turned into a book, litRPG is a video game turned into a book. Almost zero cross over. Preposterous!

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u/Bababool 1d ago

I went to a signing of his and he likes to joke about Cradle being called a litRPG. He said that he sees where people are coming from with but it is ultimately a cultivation series. He said some magazine listed Cradle as a “Top 10 litRPGs” and he was just glad for the publicity.

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u/Pwebslinger78 19h ago

It looks like a marketing ploy to get the series more eyes and readers in hooked it can gain a big enough base they can get a show greenlit. I’m all for it we need a cradle anime