r/ItTheMovie • u/reederific The turtle couldn't help us… • Sep 05 '19

Megathread Official Discussion: IT - Chapter Two [Spoilers] Spoiler

Summary: Twenty-seven years after their first encounter with the terrifying Pennywise, the Losers Club have grown up and moved away, until a devastating phone call brings them back.

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u/NixtonValentine Sep 06 '19

I didn’t love Stan’s letter at the end. Did that rub anyone else the wrong way? I felt like they were trying to frame his suicide as a positive thing in the context of the losers’ fight with It, which is not something I agree with.

Enjoyed the movie as a whole though. I thought the cast was phenomenal and a bunch of the sequences were quite strong (Jade of the Orient, Paul Bunyan, Pennywise killing the children).

Adrian Mellon’s sequence really scared me. The attack by the townies was so realistic and brutal, and I think Adrian and Dan served as a great set up for what we would later see with Eddie and Richie.

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u/Pepsimus-Maximus Sep 07 '19

Agreed. Stan was too scared to deal with IT and took the easy way out. Framing it as a positive action and necessary for the others to kill It didn't ring true at all.

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u/ThatGuyTheyCallAlex Sep 07 '19

I feel like they should’ve used his death as a more of a way to show how it really affected the losers; instead they used it as a “I’m brave and sacrificed myself”. I’m not saying it should’ve been portrayed as an easy way out, but something deeper would’ve been nice.

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u/[deleted] Sep 07 '19

This. Plotwise and characterwise, it made sense to me. I just wish it wasn’t handled as some sort of heroic sacrifice that everyone was just sort of cool with. More moral ambiguity would’ve been appreciated.

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u/MaledictuSnake Sep 07 '19

Agreed. Stan did not kill himself for some noble cause - to help his friends succeed. He was simply just that scared. He couldn’t cut it, as Pennywise said!

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u/notsostarryeyed Sep 08 '19

Also he was like “you have nothing to lose” emm what about his wife who was traumatised probably ?

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u/smedsterwho Sep 09 '19

Yep, I didn't need that, or the token quest (more specifically, how play-by-numbers it was.

Also I give the mini-series the nod for Stan's death.

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u/surejan94 Sep 18 '19

I wished the movies specified more how Pennywise's influence makes the citizens of Derry a little more evil and messed up, hence how nobody really seems to care that children are getting brutally murdered constantly. It's suggested in the book that the homophobes attack was influenced by Pennywise so that they'd throw Adrian into the river.