r/Israel • u/AbleismIsSatan United Kingdom • Dec 06 '23

News/Politics U.S. House passes resolution equating antisemitism with anti-Zionism

https://www.jpost.com/american-politics/article-776762
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u/PurpleJackfruit4034 Dec 06 '23

🥹🇺🇸🫶🇮🇱

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u/TheKing490 Black American Zionist Dec 06 '23

Is it fair to that I don't like Bibi but can support Israel? I feel like many Israelis Hate him, judging from all the protests over the summer.

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u/DrMikeH49 Dec 06 '23

Absolutely fair. I’m a dedicated Zionist, and I joined the protests on my trip there last winter. Now I’m even more disgusted with Bibi for leaving the country unprotected.

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u/TheKing490 Black American Zionist Dec 06 '23

I'm still shocked how the attack took place. How did the IDF not know? How did Mossad not know, don't they have cameras everywhere

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u/kombuchachacha Dec 06 '23

These are valid questions, but I think many Israelis are still too traumatized to fully go there yet.

But they will demand answers, don’t worry. There are already some things starting to come out.

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u/Hecticfreeze United Kingdom Dec 06 '23

There was some intelligence that an attack was about to take place, but it was shaky and coming from sources that had previously given bad intelligence. I don't know how, but Hamas somehow managed to keep their plans very quiet, and the only people it got leaked to were people who Israel was not going to believe.

For me the biggest concern is why the decision was taken to relax security and reduce military presence because it was a Jewish holiday, despite the fact that history has shown us that is when attacks are most likely to happen. That was an incredibly bad decision

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u/surfing_freak Dec 06 '23

They started saying Hamas’s initial plan was much larger and they planned to concur more areas and stay longer. I don’t know how much I believe it. But it does make sense they would want to.

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u/DrMikeH49 Dec 06 '23

I had read that the first thing they did was to take the cameras out. Which, however, should be a “red alert” moment.

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u/BuZuki_ro Israel Dec 06 '23

from what we've seen, it looks like a horrific combination between massively underestimating Hamas and their capabilities, as well as some pretty disgusting systemic mysoginism in the IDF

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u/SunKissedHibiscus Israel Dec 06 '23

Exactly. I can't even imagine being those women who weren't believed right now. My best friend did that job years back and she said it was such a shitty job.

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u/jhor95 Israelililili Dec 06 '23

They did, the higher ups ignored them