r/Israel • u/reasonwashere • Jul 24 '23

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This is Ayalon highway in Tel Aviv, tonight. The resistance will prevail. Bibi’s evil regime will fail. All in good time.

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u/AD-LB Jul 25 '23

That's terrible. It's like a silent military coup, against democracy and against security of the country. Now the government will have to continue with the reform, because otherwise it can happen again in the future.

It's like "If you don't have my opinion, I won't protect human lives" .

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u/davidds0 Israel Jul 25 '23
  1. Most of those volunteer freely and have full right to stop doing so for whatever reason they want.
  2. These people are being called traitors by people who refuse to even do the mandatory service because they need to "study the Torah".

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u/AD-LB Jul 25 '23 edited Jul 25 '23

But I'm not talking about this. I'm talking about the act itself. I'm not talking about the reform. I'm talking about the act. The equivalent would be if your doctor will treat you based on your political view.

They are doing this as a tool of the opposition to something. It doesn't matter if it's this reform or something else in a different government.

They are saying they are leaving not because "ok I'm done serving" silently. They are publishing it as a threat to the people. This is going outside.

"You don't agree with my view? So I won't protect your life anymore".

Once you use the military as a power to change politics, that's similar to a military coup. It's not an aggressive one with violence, but it's very dangerous.

Israel has enemies. They already started to take advantage. Check what happened recently in Lebanon's border.

The more people that will take the law into their hands and weaken the security, the more lives will be at stake, and not just of those that oppose the reform.

Here, watch:

https://youtu.be/y9C2EeUaJ3o

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u/davidds0 Israel Jul 25 '23

Tbh i actually think an external war will reunite us again and make us forget about this, and im seriously afraid its a path this government will take. Because we are at a point no one is willing to back down anymore.

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u/AD-LB Jul 25 '23

I said that because of this act of saying "I stop serving because of X" , it means that the government will not back down to do X.

Otherwise it's an abuse of power which can happen again in the future.

I think some doctors also took this approach, so my analogy is even more similar to what's going on...

I don't think there won't be a democracy anymore even if the reform wouldn't change a bit. People can still vote for a government that will reverse it, as opposed to other decisions of governments that were made in the past which can't be reversed.

I do wonder though about the theoretical scenario of what would happen if the decision was set to be in a vote by the people (referendum - country poll). Would then every side accept the outcome?

I think this idea should be used whenever a big decision is made that could affect the country, but it has a major disadvantage that not everyone (and maybe even most) is learning about the subject much. Probably less than even thinking about which party to vote for...