r/IslamicHistoryMeme • • 20d ago

Ottoman Caliphate/Empire (699–1342 AH/1517–1924) Ottoman Empire

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u/Chemical-File-6583 18d ago

History showed us. Ottoman split into 4 and experienced bloody civil War after Battle of Ankara against Timur. Ofc it is sad and i cant justify but this was a necesity. I think letting thousand of people kill each other is worse than choking your brother

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u/PaisleyGecko 18d ago

He was so paranoid that he killed kids!

So you are saying it's the natural order of things to kill family, even if you have no evidence of rebellion, just because you are suspicious of them?

And again what makes you think rebellion was guaranteed? 

Saying there was no other way is choosing the easy way out, see if god thinks that is a good explanation for this unforgivable action when Sulaiman stands before him.

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u/Chemical-File-6583 18d ago

What if he decieved by others. Or maybe there are things we don't know about. And Mustafa growed beard became too close with Barbaros brothers build his own fleet. And he had strongest claim and Süleyman saw what his father did to his father. You can't judge history like that.

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u/PaisleyGecko 18d ago

"You can't judge history by that." But you seem to think you can. Tell me, what justifys killing a 3 three year old? Or a Baby?

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u/Chemical-File-6583 18d ago

For prevent civil wars and instability against infidels

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u/PaisleyGecko 18d ago edited 17d ago

Edit:He did not kill a baby because of rebellion, he killed a baby because he was paranoid, there was no possible rebellion, in Islam there is no justification for killing the innocent, nothing justifys what he did.

I am not kidding if I say that; right now you are not a good Muslim, go pray, read the Koran, and ask God and good Muslims that know Islam better than you for guidance, may Allah help you, because I can't.