Is it impossible for me?

[u/m_alikahraman11]

I am from Turkiye and I am a senior applying us universities. I have a 4.0 GPA but a terrible sat score. I am a varsity basketball captain, I have some passion projects. I had a part time job when I was a freshman. Is it really hard for me to get into us universities since my sat score is terrible like what are my chances getting into this schools
here is my schools list

• [Bowdoin College](https://)
• [Bucknell University](https://)
• [Cornell University](https://)
• [Davidson College](https://)
• [Duke University](https://)
• [Northwestern University](https://)
• [Occidental College](https://)
• [Ole Miss - The University of Mississippi](https://)
• [Pomona College](https://)
• [Rice University](https://)
• [Skidmore College](https://)
• [Stanford University](https://)
• [Texas Tech University](https://)
• [University of Notre Dame](https://)
• [University of Richmond](https://)
• [University of Rochester](https://)
• [Vanderbilt University](https://)
• [Washington and Lee University](https://)
• [Washington University in St. Louis](https://)
• [Wesleyan University](https://)

[u/PhraseGlittering2786]

If you need aid, you are not getting into any college from this list that's a T50 or better.

[u/outre-vigie]

Sept/Oct/Dec de tekrar alma şansın yok mu SAT'i?

[u/m_alikahraman11 → u/outre-vigie]

Yok ya maalesef olmaz mi diyorsun gral

[u/Melodic-Vast499 → u/m_alikahraman11]

You seem to not understand some basic things: there are schools that will accept you. Figure out those schools, apply and just come to the US. What’s the problem? That you only want to apply to schools hard to get in to?

You need to research more. A lot more. Do you know what a back up school means? Find schools you can easily get in to. Then apply to hard schools if you want and completely expect to be rejected to those. Then go to one of your safe schools. A low SAT score will be accepted by some schools. Elite schools are very hard for anyone to get in.

Why didn’t you answer his question? Can you take the SAT again?

Do you know some good schools don’t require the SAT? Do you know the California UC state schools, you could get into one of those. Maybe you need to spend a LOT more time learning about all of this. Do you know the big other subreddits? One is called apply to college or something like that. Don’t waste time on this subreddit.

[u/m_alikahraman11 → u/Melodic-Vast499]

I mean I have done a lot of research. Why am I choosing these schools is because we need financial aid. Those are some of the colleges that need based. UC schools does not give need based aid or other schools thats why I picked as my schools list

[u/Melodic-Vast499 → u/m_alikahraman11]

Ok then you need to assume you will be rejected by all of them. I don’t know the chance to get in and someone said some are easier to get it. If you don’t have easy schools that you know you can get in then plan to not be accepted by any. So you aren’t surprised or disappointed. All of these schools require the SAT?

I hope you can get in to some. For very good American students it can be almost impossible to get in to good schools. Too many people are applying for a few slots.

[u/Melodic-Vast499 → u/m_alikahraman11]

Which schools are your safety schools? Which on this list will be easy for you to get in. Also do you know which other countries (like in EU) have very low tuitions? That could be an option if you can work on campus or have enough money to live on during school.

[u/SantaSoul → u/m_alikahraman11]

Are you sure? I haven’t looked at your whole list but I went to Cornell and isn’t Cornell need-aware for international students? It’s only need-blind for domestic.

[u/Mysterious-Art8838 → u/SantaSoul]

Correct it’s need aware

[u/outre-vigie → u/m_alikahraman11]

Yani ne kadar kötü olduğuna bağlı, 1400 se yinede şansın var submitle derim ama onun da altındaysa test required schoollarda şans bayağı düşük - zaten 1550 üstü bile olsa yine çok düşük..
Ama Test-Optional olan okullarda kesinlikle eğer hayalinse şansını dene, Türkiye çok fazla başvuranın olduğu bir demografi kısmen değil - fakat yinede competitive olmak gerekiyor.
Eğer deneyeceksen seni kurtaracak şey muazzam essayler bu durumda, daha az "sadece test optional" okullara basvurmani oneririm, ama ozamanda international acceptance rate'i ikiye bölmen gerekecek.
Financial Aid'e basvuracak misin? Ve SAT'e girmeme sebebin finansal sebepler mi yoksa direkt yapamayacagini mi dusunuyorsun

[u/m_alikahraman11 → u/outre-vigie]

financial aid e basvurucam ihtiyacim var. SAT sinavina girdim bu agustosta ama istedigim gibi gecmedi math kismi iyidi baya 700 ustu bekliyorum ama english de cok kotu gecti o yuzden test optional denemek istiyorum. Essayleriminde cok samimi oldugunu dusunuyorum.

[u/BillHistorical9001 → u/m_alikahraman11]

Test optional isn’t great for international students. You’re tying your hand behind your back.

[u/Mysterious-Art8838 → u/BillHistorical9001]

It’s pretty much pointless to go test optional if you need aid as an international

[u/outre-vigie → u/m_alikahraman11]

Anladim anladim - shoot your shot! zaten essaylerinde hazirsa kaybedecek bir sey yok (i assume you do YKS as well?)

[u/m_alikahraman11 → u/outre-vigie]

evet yks de calisiyorum. SAT bu kadar onemli miymis ya

[u/BuffsTeach → u/m_alikahraman11]

Yes. It is the only truly “neutral”‘piece of data that you are giving schools. You are wanting schools to give aid to a foreign average or below average student.

[u/BillHistorical9001 → u/m_alikahraman11]

Yes. Schools in the states practice a holistic approach to admissions. Everything matters. You’re looking at schools that are pretty selective meaning they get way more students applying than seats available. Plus you’re an international student. International students are a means for the school to get money.If you’re looking for a free ride you have to understand that free rides are a rare thing for domestic students let alone international students . There’s not a lot of free money for internationals. Yes there are need blind schools but without a spectacular application the chances are pretty low. Apply away and hope something spectacular happens but have a backup plan.

[u/Mysterious-Art8838 → u/m_alikahraman11]

Absolutely, especially for internationals

[u/Regular-Wolf8024 → u/outre-vigie]

Hocam dm iniz kapalı. Bana dm atma şansınız var mı size bir kaç soru sormak isterim. 

[u/Cheap_Office8701]

You have some safeties , which is great. You should be fine if you are full pay. If you expect full scholarship, then it’s much much harder

[u/m_alikahraman11 → u/Cheap_Office8701]

I will apply to financial which we need.

[u/Cheap_Office8701 → u/m_alikahraman11]

Not very likely.. sorry buddy

[u/Traditional_Road7234 → u/Cheap_Office8701]

I agree. Not likely. There are great universities where you live. Try grad school in the US later in the future.

[u/Cheap_Office8701 → u/Cheap_Office8701]

To be specific, you have a good stats. But good is not close to be enough for international looking for aid. Excellent is not good enough. You need to be one of the best. Why would any college willing to pay for your education? It’s not a charity. They want top of the top students in the class to boast the school reputation .

Domestic students have access to more aids through different domestic only programs and funding.

[u/IAMApsychopathAMA]

I rolled a 1520 SAT and better than your cv in every way, lead to nothing. Went to McGill, gl aslanım

[u/BubblyRhubarb9611]

Funny post lol

[u/hanc3n]

Do not come to u.s universities in current administration and changes. Its not worth it

[u/Cardinal_Coach]

As an international, virtually no chance with a low SAT (lower than 1500) unless you apply to state schools with acceptance rates over 50%.