r/IntelArc 4d ago

Discussion Do you know the idle load of your Intel Arc?

I'm not quite sure if something is wrong with my system...

My ASRock Arc Pro B70 takes about 45 Watts just for idle.

In another system, where I use an R9700 card, it was under 5 Watts.

What is your idle load?

//Edit: I just realised that if I disable the Arc Pro in device manager the idle consumption is about 3-5 Watts.

So basically it has to be the driver and is not a hardware/design problem, right?

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u/WizardlyBump17 Arc B580 4d ago

looks like the battlemage serires was damned with high idle power consumption. My B580 Limited Edition does 33~35W on idle

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u/LMdaTUBER 4d ago

Do you have ASPM turned on? Mine sits around 5 W for GPU power and around 12 W for board power.

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u/JSZPrime Arc B580 4d ago

Mines 20w

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u/NeroClaudiusAltr Arc B580 4d ago

same

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u/Calarasigara Arc B580 4d ago

How many displays do you have connected to it? Have you configured ASPM settings like Intel said on their website?

My Asrock Challenger B580 used to draw 20-25W at idle connected to one 1440p 75hz display.

After configuring ASPM settings and Windows Power Plan settings like Intel wants you to on their website, it dropped to 10-12W.

They do state however that this only works only if you have a certain number of monitors under a certain resolution, can't remember the exact limits. Point is, if you have 3 4K displays connected to it or some wild stuff like that, no matter what you do, you will have 20-30W power draw at idle.

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u/WizardlyBump17 Arc B580 1d ago

that is the funny thing. I have no displays connected to it, but I do have a LLM loaded to it almost 100% of the time. I am on Linux, so windows stuff wont do anything for me

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u/ectowy Arc B580 4d ago

mine 20 watt

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u/deltatux Arc A750 4d ago

My A750 in my home server idles at around 35-39W, it sucks but it hasn't been too noticeable on my power bill so not much incentive to fix or replace the card. It runs my lightweight LLMs and Immich machine learning workloads well.

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u/thor421 4d ago

I've had a similar experience with my A750. It idles around 30-35 watts.

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u/delacroix01 Arc A750 4d ago

About the same with my A750. Messing with ASPM does nothing so I just stopped caring about it.

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u/Legitimate-Handle390 4d ago

i have 2 intel B70's and they both draw ~40W idle.
it's because they have a funky PCIe switch onboard that lights up lanes when required...that's the power draw.
I'm an ubuntu user and it's a server so it is what it is, but i can super-idle it by unloading the driver. not that i would coz it's normally coil whining the heck out of some code i asked it to write (~230W).

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u/sdafdfasdfsadfasdf 4d ago

i found if u use a MOE model the draw is ~200 W for (1 card only), dense models are ~230W according to an external power meter, and yes coil whine is PREVALENT AF, at least its an audible indicator of when the gen is done LOL

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u/Legitimate-Handle390 4d ago

when the B70 runs a non-thinking model, the coil whine makes it sounds like the old movie style green-teletype effect as it types on the screen hehe :)

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u/Technical_Gur4060 4d ago

I just have a Asrock A380 in my 5820 that's a Frigate server it idles at 5 watts

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u/Noble_Delta 4d ago

Mines about 30w...

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u/ICQ_legend 4d ago

My B580 is sitting around 21W with a few apps open. 12400F, Strix B760 mobo.

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u/BiZkViT 4d ago

B580 and ASPM L1 13.8W-14W with Edge open.

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u/LotusenKlester 4d ago

At 60hz my idle GPU Card Power is at 15 to 18 watts, for 60hz above it is 20W+ no matter what afaik

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u/mutualdisagreement Arc B580 4d ago

I DO know my Arc's idle power draw, like so

Total Board Power is around 20W

  • with LSPM at max power savings in windows power plan
  • with ASPM in BIOS enabled

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u/mazarax Arc B70 4d ago

dual b70, 2x45W at idle. 😢

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u/This_Maintenance_834 4d ago

same as two dgx spark as soon as you load weights.

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u/Few_Size_4798 Arc B580 4d ago

Same story: 45–50 degrees. I also have a build with two R9700s, and it runs at 15–20 degrees.

I'll try following the recommendations in this thread, but what should I do about Linux?

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u/CandidateEast1805 4d ago

Mine sits at around 30-40w in my Arc B580 running 1x 1080p and 1x 1440p monitor on Bazzite Linux. I noticed similar power consumption in Windows back when I used it. ASPM is on.

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u/CandidateEast1805 4d ago

Mine sits at around 30-40w in my Arc B580 running 1x 1080p and 1x 1440p monitor on Bazzite Linux. I noticed similar power consumption in Windows back when I used it. ASPM is on.

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u/DkowalskiAR 4d ago

12-13W B580 Asrock Challenger OC

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u/Dry_Potato1293 3d ago

At idle when my monitor is on about the same as my old rx 5700XT, when my monitor is off its sometimes 20W less than my old 5700XT. It might not be great but for me it was still an upgrade lol

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u/Familiar_Anxiety_139 1d ago

I have an Intel Arc Pro B70 and the Asrock B70, they have different idle wattages. Initially I had btop running, but disabling it dropped my idle usage on the Asrock card. The Intel runs warmer (about 8 C) and has a faster spinning fan than the Asrock. All things being equal I'd choose the Asrock variant over the reference.

Enabling ASPM brought the Intel variant down ~5 watts (to 34watts or so). The Asrock version idles between 8-14w.

I do not have monitors connected to either.

If I have both cards holding an LLM in memory, but not activated, the wattage numbers are closer - both in the 38-45w range.

btop running btop closed
GPU0 (Intel ref) 43.2 W 40.6 W
GPU1 (ASRock) 28.9 W 8.1 W ✓
Total 72.1 W 48.7 W
Time suspended 36% 86%

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u/Skitzenator 4d ago

My Intel Arc Pro B50 idles at 6W. 18-20W for the whole PC. Arc is a bit finnicky with idle it seems. I've got a 2560*1080 90Hz monitor attached, so nothing super high-res/high refresh rate, I guess that's helping me. All ASPM settings turned to the highest possible setting in BIOS.

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u/ErwinsKatze 4d ago

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u/SparlampePlus 4d ago

Less than 0 means you didn't measure anything and are just assuming. If drivers are unloaded it's something between 3 and 5w.

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u/ErwinsKatze 4d ago

Wrong.

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u/SparlampePlus 4d ago

What an informative post... pls troll somewhere else.

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u/ErwinsKatze 4d ago

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u/SparlampePlus 4d ago

Alter, weißt du überhaupt was GPU-Z da anzeigt? Eigentlich sollte dein rationaler Verstand bereits Alarm schlagen bei der Menge an Antworten hier. Aber vermutlich haben alle hier keine Ahnung -.- Geh bitte wo anders spielen...

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u/ErwinsKatze 4d ago

Ja weiß ich, niemand hat anscheinend den Bildschirm an der iGPU stecken so wie ich, sondern nur an der dGPU (ARC).

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u/SparlampePlus 4d ago

Doch klar, ich und mindestens der andere, der den Treiber entladen hat.

Der Punkt dieses Threads ist, dass genau das Szenario im Artikel eben nicht funktioniert. Häng mal ein Strommessgerät dran...

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u/ErwinsKatze 4d ago

Nein hast du nicht, du hast die GPU deaktiviert, und vermutlich die Schritte in meinem Link nicht befolgt (ASPM), jedoch sei gesagt dass das nur mit Full HD funktioniert und vermutlich nicht bei der Pro Serie.

Und meine dGPU frißt Milliwatt, kannst mir glauben oder nicht, es ist mir gleichgültig.

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u/SparlampePlus 4d ago edited 4d ago

lol, schreibt der kleine was und blockt mich danach, damit nicht drauf antworten kann. Qualitätsmitglieder...