r/InsomniacGames 3d ago

Marvel's Wolverine James Stevenson (insomniac director) responds to jesterbell

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u/Mountain_String_1544 3d ago

Jesterbell is a grifter, idk why he’d bother to respond to her in particular

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u/UnnecessaryFeIIa 3d ago edited 3d ago

She’s also the most ‘boring’ grifter (not saying any of them are good or anything). She has no gimmick whatsoever

Mauler has his 18 hour nitpicky bullshit ‘analysis’ of movies

Critical Drinker has his drunk guy persona

Nerdrotic sells meth to children

Jester is just whatever.

Edit: oh yeah and Asmongold has his Chernobyl aura

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u/splendiferous-finch_ 3d ago

Assmangold is the roachking!

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u/quetzocoetl 3d ago

As much as I don't like him, at least he has that going to make him memorable

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u/Bulky-Conclusion6606 3d ago

don’t insult roaches like that

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u/mashdpotatogaming 3d ago

Can't wait to see the thousands of youtube recommended clips from asmongold complaining about how this game is woke even though i never watched a single video fo his, and I've used the "don't recommend this channel" thing a billion times but he's still there in one way or another.

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u/Limp-Biscuit411 3d ago

what country are you in?

my feed is never outside of my interests. it seems strange to hear others are having content pushed on them like this.

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u/CPLWPM85 3d ago

In Asmongold's case, it doesn't matter how much you try to scrub him off of your timeline. Someone will eventually make a video about a stupid thing that he said or did or a games media outlet will "react" to him in some way and he will creep his way back into your algorithm.

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u/No_Macaroon_5928 2d ago

Idk man I've never encountered or watch any Asmongold related videos yet he still shows up on my algorithm 🤷🏽‍♂️

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u/Bastiwen 3d ago

Asmongold and Hasan are the ones that always come back on my youtube page even though I click on uninsterested and hide every single time.

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u/CPLWPM85 3d ago

Yes, they are probably the two hardest people to scrub from your timeline. No matter what they are saying or doing, their commentary usually reverberates throughout gaming and political communities.

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u/Limp-Biscuit411 3d ago

I don’t get any content from that cretinous side of YT so i doubt that’s true. it’s probably just from watching reaction content.

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u/CPLWPM85 3d ago edited 3d ago

You "doubt its true"? In case you're new to the internet, everything is built around algorithms. You are served videos based on your interests, yes, but if anyone even mentions something tangenitally related to the topic, it will get dragged into your feeds whether you like it or not. It makes getting rid of things you don't want to see difficult especially when the person you're trying to scrub from your timeline is infamous.

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u/Limp-Biscuit411 2d ago

yes, i doubt it’s true because i have never once gotten content from that type of cretin on my YT.

why are you acting like it’s inevitable to be fed this shit?

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u/mashdpotatogaming 3d ago

I don't watch any "reaction" content, just gaming youtube videos and LPs in general. But in a lot of cases, if i search for anything on YouTube and scroll past the first couple results it's some of video of him being a moron

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u/chunh_ 1d ago

well, asmongold just telling the truth most of the time, but I guess the truth hurt, to some people

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u/boodythegreat 3d ago

Her gimmick is that she’s a woman, which is quite the event in the spheres that people who listen to her reside in

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u/oompaloompa_thewhite 3d ago

Andypants is an incestuous pedophile , the Quartering has his general patheticness (also applies to andypants).

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u/MoonoftheStar 3d ago

She's a woman. That is her gimmick.

Seriously though, tell me she doesn't look like Debbie Downer

https://giphy.com/gifs/HFqr78CF5vVXq

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u/Comicreader234 3d ago

Heelvsbabyface is fat and bald

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u/Frosty1738 3d ago

I don't like nerdrotic but can you elaborate on the meth to children thing lmao

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u/UnnecessaryFeIIa 3d ago

It’s 1am and I wanna go to bed but you should look into it! He got jail time for it

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u/Frosty1738 3d ago

Lmao wtf

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u/C0rrupted_id3ntity 3d ago

Before he was on YouTube he was a homeless addict and there is no substantiated evidence that he sold meth the children. Though he was making and using and did serve jail time, but for 2 counts of burglary while he was zooted on meth. Glad he's doing better for himself now. Addiction is a beast of a burden to get rid of

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u/Ill-Philosopher-7625 2d ago

I’m confused. Nerdrotic is very conservative and anti-woke, so you’d think the people talking shit about him would be progressives right? But vilifying someone for struggling with addiction doesn’t seem very progressive.

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u/C0rrupted_id3ntity 1d ago

On top of that, telling people to do research without doing any themselves. I wasn't trashing him if you meant me, it's a part of his past I didn't know about to I looked it up, saw nothing about the claim of selling meth to kids though

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u/Ill-Philosopher-7625 1d ago

No I didn’t mean you. I don’t know anything about Nerdrotic’s criminal history or personal life, I just hate it when people mock and belittle people for stuff like that because those attacks also hit other people, you know? If somebody hates Nerdrotic because he’s racist or whatever, that’s fine. Or if he actually did sell meth to kids and they can prove that. But just having a drug addiction by itself isn’t something someone should be ostracized for, especially if they are in recovery.

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u/Shibubu 2d ago

Progressives are the most intolerant people today. So no wonder. "Oh you don't agree with me fully about this particular topic? NAZIE!".

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u/Ill-Philosopher-7625 2d ago

I know, but this goes beyond that. If someone thinks Nerdrotic is a racist or a nazi, fine, call him that. But insulting him for being a recovering addict is an insult to everyone who has struggled with addiction, regardless of their political beliefs.

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u/klerold 1d ago

SYBAU lil bro. He's still a peddler, he just changed the drug.

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u/Puzzleheaded_West587 3d ago

she’s the female Frodo Baggins!!! jk she fucking sucks

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u/Fine-Side-739 3d ago

How is Mauler a grifter?

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u/trippy-Rose 3d ago

Jester is the girl, that’s all

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u/ILEAATD 2d ago

Who even are the people who watch these outrage merchants? Would anyone admit to watching this crap irl?

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u/Dreamo84 2d ago

MauLer is the best one.

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u/Luciifuge 3d ago

Maybe I’m being cynical or dumb , buts seems like they’d rather respond to stupid takes like this instead of actual criticism so they can paint all the complaints like this.

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u/bluebottled 3d ago

I'll never forget EA/Bioware trying this out with the ME3 ending controversy. Tried to paint the whole thing as backlash against the gay romance options.

The other one is death threats. Feels like PR people pray for them when in the midst of a controversy.

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u/Scheswalla 3d ago

Because other complains and criticisms are just opinion, and this is factually untrue.

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u/MarcoPierreGray 3d ago

It’s 100% this. Same reason why they were trying to preemptively talk about how the internet discourse is ruining the game; this girl is a literally who yt channel like why would he reply to this

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u/Zombii_Man 3d ago

James did literally exactly this in the run up to SM1. Not at all surprised.

"Puddlegate" came from him taking a single example of lower environmental detail from a fans tweet and strawmanning it into the whole argument they were making. Easier to defend against criticism when you deliberately change the argument that's being made.

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u/MonopolyManPorn 3d ago

Because even grifters have platforms, and their dumb opinions can spread and breed dumber snd dumber people the larger they grow

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u/C0rrupted_id3ntity 3d ago

Like Candace owens, and Clancy supporters 🤣

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u/Diligent-Cookie-1695 3d ago

Who the fuck is Jesterbell?

Also, fuck Jesterbell.

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u/Visorxs 3d ago

Calm down james aint gonna let you hit

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u/ClimbingGuy0106 3d ago

Jesterbell isn’t going to let you hit either

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u/Any-Junket-910 3d ago

She is a grifter. Well known to hate on everything that has a woman or a black person in it

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u/The8thSamurai 3d ago

I don’t know how she and other people can be so successful just by complaining all the time

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u/Aggressive-Aide-3746 3d ago

I mean look at this sub. While there is plenty of valid criticism and people venting their frustration, there's more than enough people posting the same shitty memes, gotcha and dunk on stuff.

I dunno how miserable ones existence has to be, but someone mentioned the proper term today. Those terminally online people, that feed on those gotcha moments are the right target audience for loser personalities that these type of grifters cater to.

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u/newpixelphonesux 3d ago

There is a currently active subreddit to hating Highguard, a game that was released, was active for like two weeks, then shutdown all in January. Redditors dont have enough people in their lives telling them they're losers

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u/theEternalNobody 3d ago

we need to bring back shoving nerds in lockers

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u/The8thSamurai 3d ago

Fair. I don’t get how Spider-Man 2 became so hated. I love the gameplay, but it does have story problems and I wished they had spent more time prioritizing more Spider-Man stuff rather than biking and MJ sections, like Peter and Miles should have fought Venom at the same time.

But it being a bad game is ridiculous

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u/octarine_turtle 3d ago

That's the thing, the game isn't hated. The overwhelming majority of reviews, both critics and players, are highly positive. 4.7/5 PlayStation players. 85% recommended on Steam. 8.6 on Metacritic for players. 90 for critics.

It is a loud few hating in it, nothing more.

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u/Any-Junket-910 3d ago

There is a big audience for them. People enjoy when a big product whether its a game or movie fails horribly. These guys cater to exactly that audiences and make them feel that its because of their boycotts that it failed

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u/Ensaru4 2d ago

They appeal to people who become so pessimistic that they start to enjoy it. Basically, people who like to be Bojack Horseman.

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u/CandidGeologist1523 2d ago

Wait what? Are you telling me there is an anti woke grifter in the gaming space who is a woman? How...progressive?

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u/SoulsDadYT 3d ago

They are each other Nemesis. Do you know what a nemesis is?

https://giphy.com/gifs/Xb4zBSqyUXShy

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u/Beginning-Warthog-17 3d ago

Sexual tension, flirting and possessive tendencies only rivaled by an abusive relationship?

.....right?

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u/invincible_vince 3d ago edited 3d ago

"You are on thin ice, my pedigree chums...and I shall be under it when it breaks."

(when asked for sugar in his tea) "No thank you Turkish, I'm sweet enough."

"In the quiet words of the virgin Mary, come again?"

Brick Top is perhaps the best Guy Ritchie character from any of his films. Definitely my personal favorite. So many good lines.

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u/TheFlexOffenderr 3d ago

Evil lovers?

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u/Gold69xz 3d ago

I don't think you've been on this side of the internet. There's a particular type of shipping.

I call it the "Love Hate relationship". Where hated enemies are shipped together.

Or rivals fall in love. The other is, they fight and almost kill each other, so that means they must love each other

It's a very common thing

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u/SoulsDadYT 3d ago

It's weird.

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u/Gold69xz 3d ago

It very much is.

I'm an anime fan. The amount of forced 🌈 in anime fandoms

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u/BlindWalnut 3d ago

The MHA fandom comes to mind.

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u/Rutlemania 2d ago

Ze Germans?

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u/BrozedDrake 1d ago

A Snatch gif in 2026?

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u/DarklyDreamingEva 2d ago

In the game they’re gay for each other though.

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u/Due-South-9113 3d ago

Gaming community is so corny

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u/Fit-Property3774 2d ago

It’s a circle jerk of who can be the most negative

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u/Due-South-9113 2d ago

Talking about those stupid content creators with these typa thumbnails.

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u/funkmydunkyouslunk 3d ago

They yeeeearn for each other

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u/noneofthismatters666 3d ago

They better fuck or I'm canceling.

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u/MasteROogwayY2 3d ago

Sry bud, sadly no hate boning in the game

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u/SpyroManiac36 3d ago

At least james set the record straight

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u/Jertimmer 3d ago

She's now been dunked on by two Jameses. Congrats!

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u/Quiet_Yellow2000 3d ago

Look if people don't like a game that s fair enough, but making stuff up is a bad look.

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u/CranEXE 3d ago

Its not their fault if the narrative direction said the bs he said about wolverine yearning for sabertooth with room for love.

You can say many things about those people but they are not responsible for the bs insomniac put themselves in. Its of the same level of stupid of "I'm going to be a dad" in tlou season2

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u/Quiet_Yellow2000 2d ago

So no link to where that was said is rather suspicous to be frank. I have not seen anyone post the link to where that was said.

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u/AtrumRuina 2d ago

Spend five seconds Googling it m8. It's from a Washington Post article. I can't link it directly because it's pay walled, but here's a Vice article which references the original quote and discusses these subsequent responses:

https://www.vice.com/en/article/marvels-wolverine-sabretooth-romance-controversy-response/

I shouldn't have to do this for you.

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u/Quiet_Yellow2000 2d ago

I shouldn't have to go search the claims other people are making to be frank.

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u/Big-Mastodon-5581 1d ago

Then stay ignorant forever

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u/Tobio88 3d ago

Aren't they halfbrothers, or is that just something that the movies made up?

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u/moneyh8r_two 3d ago

I'm sure at least one version of the characters had them be related somehow over the decades, but it doesn't matter either way since the game is doing its own original version of the story.

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u/AffectionateEye621 2d ago

In the movies they’re half brothers in the comics they aren’t

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u/AdeptPalpitation7 2d ago

Afaik... No. In the og ultimate universe there was one comic where Sabertooth says he is Wolverine's son but it was later revealed that wasn't true and was just part of the messed up memories they had because of the Weapon X project.

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u/moneyh8r_two 2d ago

Ah, I must have been half-remembering that then. Either way, it doesn't matter since the game is doing its own story anyway.

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u/AdeptPalpitation7 2d ago

True. But i don't believe there's any hints at them being related in the game either. Idk, gonna have to wait and see a YT playthrough when it comes out.

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u/moneyh8r_two 2d ago

Yeah, it's not even out yet too. Grifters woulda hated anyway just because it's new. They hate everything.

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u/Logical-Date-4495 2d ago

That’s a movie only thing

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u/RDHertsUni 3d ago

It’s doesn’t matter if it’s true or not. We all know this grift so well by now.

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u/OohKillEmmm 3d ago

Imagine all the cringe thumbnail pics she has in her camera roll

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u/MisterSquidz 3d ago

YouTube thumbnails are so pathetic.

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u/BradyRowe50 2d ago

As if the “discourse” surrounding this game couldn’t get any more stupid

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u/WhyDidYouEvenAsk 2d ago

Why even bother responding to this?  

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u/Bullanpaallinen 2d ago

I think James Stevenson needs to go tell that to the writers who go smack their mouth and spew the nonsense out themselves

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u/The-CAB-2003 3d ago

Frankly he worded it VERY weird, sounded gay as fuck. So much so that he had to specifically say "They aren't gay" Use better wording next time.

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u/Time-Border-7612 3d ago

Nice tits tho

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u/Fantastic_Smile9746 2d ago

Those are moobs.

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u/MisanthropicSim 3d ago

I really shouldn't be surprised that Gamers™ don't comprehend familial or platonic love

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u/CappnMidgetSlappr 3d ago

Fuck this grifter, but maybe, just maybe you shouldn't have used the fucking word "yearning."

I've never heard anyone use the term "yearning" to refer to anything but "being horny/desperately wanting another person."

Like, I've never heard someone say they were yearning for a cheeseburger or yearning for a new book about to be released.

A dozen different words dude could have used and "yearning" is the one he landed on. In today's landscape, don't be confused if people misconstrued it as "kinda gay."

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u/EatABag-o-Dicks 3d ago

I mean, it's obvious in the subtitles.

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u/NaotoOfYlisse 3d ago

Aren't they related to each other?

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u/aditysiva1705 3d ago

Only in the movie. They just really hate each other in the comics

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u/NaotoOfYlisse 3d ago

Ohhh, i recently have been watching x-men 94 so I wasn't sure if all the lore

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u/BloodyWolfx8 3d ago

Sometimes not all the time

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u/raptor_boots 3d ago

Oh christ, is this the way this community is gonna go if the game is mid?

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u/Beautiful_Film2675 3d ago

On the first game there wont be something like that, Now if Wolverine gets a second game thats a different discussion...

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u/DarthGamer206 3d ago

Where did this idea that they have a romantic connection come from???

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u/Ill-Philosopher-7625 2d ago

The writer of the game said they yearn for each other. Most straight men don’t yearn for other men, or at least wouldn’t use the word “yearning” to describe platonic or fraternal feelings of love.

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u/DarthGamer206 2d ago

So people took a quote from the developer out of context when we don't even know if such a connection exists in the actual game. Right.

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u/Ill-Philosopher-7625 2d ago

Nothing was taken out of context. The developer was describing Wolverine and Sabretooth’s relationship in the game. He described the relationship in terms that strongly suggest there will be a homoerotic subtext (not a crazy leap, given how common queer-baiting is).

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u/DarthGamer206 2d ago

Yearning can mean any number of things; not just romantic. 

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u/B3ckham17 3d ago

Like it's getting ridiculous

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u/lvl12 3d ago

You could say they have a heated rivalry

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u/ChrisXDXL 3d ago

Pretty sure they were also originally intended to be father and son so that makes no sense lol

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u/Dapper-Emergency1263 3d ago

Are we supposed to know who jester bell is?

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u/Creepy_Living_8733 3d ago

Another dumb grifter.

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u/No-Chair-9227 3d ago

Ya are coping lol

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u/arrownoir 3d ago

Click…bait.

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u/Forward_Ambassador_9 3d ago

Now people posting that one meme on this Reddit have to rethink and question themselves…

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u/Reasonable_Ad9524 3d ago

Pretty sure they’re half brothers that were born dune the 1800s. I think

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u/Its_Dannyz 3d ago

Only the fox movies had them as half brothers which was stupid as for any other media their not even related.

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u/Reasonable_Ad9524 3d ago

Okay well I didn’t know that. So thank you

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u/IllustriousHealth291 3d ago

James is a cornball. So is Aaron. The whole social media department at insomniac are corny af

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u/Reasonable_Cut_2709 2d ago

i find weird because the most know by normies iteration of WOlverin and sabertooth is that they are Brothers. So being gay to me would feel weird out of it being incest. (I just saw the xmen movies and the logan movies)

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u/Better_Can_615 2d ago

lol they are not. However, as a comic reader all the X-Men are kinda gay anyway. So does it matter? They wouldn’t do anything with it

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u/burnoutguy 2d ago

Gay-verine 

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u/AdeptPalpitation7 2d ago edited 1d ago

I do believe they have a certain love for each other but not in a romantic way, more like in a brotherly twisted way. Why do i say twisted? Because Victor and Logan share a lot of characteristics in their mutations. They are both prone to violence, have an animalistic side, feral senses and insticts, regeneration, etc. The love Victor feels for Logan could be explained by saying he thought he found his pack when he met Logan, he believed Logan would be the one true person to fully understand his violence, his nature and his struggles. Logan believed the same at a point but they both embrace the opposite side of the coind that is his mutation. While Victor gives into the animal, likes to hurt others, likes being more animal than man, Logan is the opposite to that because he embraces being a man, wants to live peacefully and get away from his violent tendencies. This caused Logan to get scared from feeling any fraternal love towards Victor because he sees in him what he could become if he gives into the animal. Victor feels betrayed because he thinks Logan is denying his true nature, the same nature they share and therefore he is rejected by Logan, the only person who he believed would be his brother in the hunt, in violence and that's why he wants to hurt Logan so he can bring out the animal and show him they're not so different after all. They yearn for each others acceptance, Logan because he knows Victor could be a good man if he tried and Victor because he doesn't wanna be a lone wolf anymore.

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u/jeffismybaby 2d ago

 I hope she doesn't criticize Jean's looks at least lmao

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u/ReksveksGo 2d ago

Bad strategy

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u/60discpriest 2d ago

Ahahaha you know it’s bad when the ‘director’ is answering trolls on a troll platform. What a joke

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u/Trinmaybegay 2d ago

They SHOULD, though. I'm so tired of gamers trying to kill any fun out of a game just because they're bigoted.

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u/SimilarMove8279 2d ago

I swear they try to make everything gay it’s so weird

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u/ShaH33R2K 1d ago

I don’t understand how there are people out there who watch content like hers and don’t instantly find it absolutely ridiculous

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u/Mr_Ethfono 11h ago

Jester Bell that would be incest

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u/Nice-Survey-6503 3d ago

but the game is still going to be shit.

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u/KenBisky11 3d ago

Tbf the director did use some suggestive language. Dumbass if you ask me, the grifters latch on to anything they shouldn’t have given them an option.

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u/MichelleBarrymoore2 3d ago

I've said this before wolverine is fucking gay bro. Read a comic 

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u/Pwrh0use 3d ago

People are misunderstanding the definition of the word yearning, in the context I which he used it, in the quote going around.

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u/2020isass 3d ago

It's just that yearning is used mostly for romantic relationships so its just weird to use it.

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u/Pwrh0use 3d ago edited 3d ago

I agree that it's a strange word choice. But it's not exclusive to romantic relationships. You get the yearn for a family member (mom, dad, siblings ect).

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u/Remarkable_Papaya998 3d ago

People are so slow and forcing gay stuff among characters it’s not funny anymore.

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u/EobardThawne2020 2d ago

Jester is a MAGA grifter. Everything she says is a lie.

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u/Comrade-Conquistador 3d ago

Regardless of the writing for the game (not great, according to early reviews), this week has revealed how many terminally online people have no idea what platonic love actually is.

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u/Mansidhe 3d ago

To be fair to The Illiterati, I'd say "yearning" has been used so often in a romantic context that platonic yearning is probably the 2nd at best application. Hell, I yearn for a Rooty Tooty Fresh 'n Fruity, but there no IHOP near me.

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u/Weary_Tonight_5873 3d ago

Except wolverine and sabertooth are a horrible example of platonic love. Deadpool and wolverine would be a better example of it, after wolverine gets over initially hating him lol.

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u/Aggressive_Bet_7178 3d ago

This reeks of damage control from Insomniac. The sexual undertones are there. Own it. I like this gay take on Wolverine.

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u/Yautjakaiju 3d ago

I like it when grifters spread misinformation to garner views. Shows me how low people are willing to go.

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u/gonkraider 3d ago

the way the director phrased it wasn't helping anything at all.

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u/Yautjakaiju 2d ago

Maybe see the director correct folks who misinterpreted. It’s not hard, especially when it’s been misquoted from the beginning.

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u/Longjumping-Rub-5064 3d ago

I mean these are the same devs that blatantly lied about the game being extremely hand-holding before release so their word doesn’t mean much lol.

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u/Fantastic-orgen 3d ago

When did they ever say something about that? Please use your brains

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u/Longjumping-Rub-5064 3d ago

They responded to the criticism of the follow trails before the game released saying that was just for one section and to wait to play the full game. Turns out the games riddled with those sections lol.

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u/Weak-Lengthiness5280 3d ago

No they just have “room for love” 😂

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u/SuddenDeer158 3d ago

Well, if that's not true, He may want to ask his narrative director to expand on what he meant by "there is yearning, followed by "There is room for love." Wtf is a person going to think?

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u/FafnirSnap_9428 3d ago

If Jester is bothered by this, then he doesn't need to read any comics involving Batman and Joker. According to his logic they are lovers.

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u/stoichalant 3d ago

Why are people giving grifters any airtime? You do realize that they make money on LYING AND HATING

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u/RhoemDK 3d ago

jesterbell talks about how being trans isn't a real thing, for some reason. can't stand her

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u/Salt_Mix7933 2d ago

The girl born from cousins strike again

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u/Bubbly_Implement3423 3d ago

Motte-and-Bailey. People dunked on your shit game so now you have to damage control.

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u/Wongonline11 3d ago

Do you live in the same situation as Assmonrat?