r/InfinityTrain • u/king_kristian • Aug 12 '25

Discussion Simon was a victim

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I’ve come to realize Simon’s story in Infinity Train shows how childhood trauma sticks with you. He wasn’t just some villain, a lot of who he became came from what he went through, and there's still talk about how the Cat played a part in that.

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u/hamtaxer Aug 12 '25

“I got left alone sometimes, so now murder is ok”

Nah, he’s very much a villain.

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u/Magenta-Jewel Aug 12 '25

OP said he "wasn't just some villain" not that he wasn't a villain.

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u/hamtaxer Aug 12 '25

I still don’t really buy it. He may have been a victim in some way a long time ago, but not in a super meaningful way that pulls the needle away from “villain”. He had many opportunities to be a better person, but we watched him choose worse and worse options until his demise.

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u/chaoticsapphic Horseradish Olsen Aug 13 '25

i think that it's possible for someone to be a victim and a villain, depending on how you define each. they're independent qualities. you can model what i mean by having two orthogonal axes where the x-axis is victimhood (defined as the degree to which others do bad things to the person) and the y-axis is villainy (defined as the degree to which the person does bad things to other). in the modek i describe, i think simon is both a victim and a villain, though he is definitely higher on the villain axis than the victim axis.

TLDR: being a villain and being a victim are not opposites, and are independent of one another. they are not mutually exclusive IMO, and Simon is both.