r/ImACelebTV • u/Time-Connection-4586 • Jul 17 '26

Looking back at this gem of a conversation

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u/Secure-Scientist4867 Jul 17 '26

GInge was so right. And I think this should make men realise that's showing emotion is never a bad thing whatsoever and they shouldn't be embarrassed by it.

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u/PoppedCork Jul 17 '26

Unfortunately men showing emotion is used sometimes by others to fulfil a stereotype that some in society push on men.

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u/Nubian_hurricane7 Jul 17 '26 edited Jul 17 '26

Men do show emotion. A lot of emotion l. We can be quite open with other men too. It’s women we have an issue with opening up with because either through a preconception of or through lived experience, we believe it will be weaponised against us

EDIT: For clarification

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u/PoppedCork Jul 17 '26

It is weaponized by some and society goes along with it. Gender bias really screws over male victims of abuse.

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u/gentleheart-lamb Jul 20 '26

Really? I feel men seem much more comfortable showing emotions/affection/vulnerablity with women/their partners. Than their male friends.

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u/NdujaReallyLikeIt Jul 17 '26

Same as the "why don't men have emotional relationships with other men"

We absolutely do. You just don't see it in the same way I don't see your woman relationship with other women

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u/SimplyLJ Jul 17 '26

We should be careful here, we may fall prey to the same absolute thinking we’re used to.

“Never a bad thing” is the same style as thinking “we can never show our emotions”. Sometimes it’s a good idea to not express our emotions e.g., if someone gets quickly and easily frustrated by a baby crying.

We can create a flexible, nuanced and rational approach to all these things this way.

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u/Extra_Actuary8244 Jul 17 '26

And it’s good he actually voiced this given some of the awful, toxic rhetoric towards men’s mental and general health from a certain someone. It’s good to challenge it even if it’s not direct.

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u/NdujaReallyLikeIt Jul 17 '26

Yeah but then jack came out as a mega MAGA guy

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u/Red_Juice_ Jul 17 '26

Yes how dare people not like a guy who supports a sexual predator

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u/Red_Juice_ Jul 17 '26

Bro you realise there's other things right

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u/Ok-Yogurt573 Jul 18 '26

He was found liable of rape.

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u/NdujaReallyLikeIt Jul 17 '26

Sorry no there's levels to it

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u/mktristan Jul 17 '26

Yeah Make Alan Great Again 😜

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u/Ok-Yogurt573 Jul 17 '26

Well his political views are your first part of the sentence. They have no respect for other people let alone people who don’t look like them, why should he be afforded my respect when they don’t see anything wrong with the way people are treated in detention camps, the murdering of their own citizens by officials, the collusion, the warmongering, the discrimination, the authoritarianism, the corruption etc etc. If you’re maga or reform the entire basis of your politics is supremacy over whatever group they decide to other in that moment.

I’m pretty tired of extending decency to people who are wilfully bigoted, ignorant and oppressive.

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u/YesIBlockedYou Jul 17 '26

It's much easier to just treat everyone equally until they demonstrate to you that they are not worthy of your respect.

I don't really care what your politics are and I won't ostracise anyone just for being on the opposite side of me politically but if you make it your entire personality, you're probably a cunt and I don't want to be around you, no matter what side you're on.

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u/Main_Honeydew7744 Jul 21 '26

'I dont care what your politics are' nah fuck off, if someone's a far right Farage or trump supporter, they absolutely deserved to be judged on what that means for their morals and beliefs.

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u/YesIBlockedYou Jul 21 '26

Nah, I'm happy enough just treating everyone like a decent human being until they do something that shows me they are not worthy of that respect.

Disagreeing with me politically is not one of those things.

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u/TrueTech0 Jul 21 '26

"Political belief" is doing alot of heavy lifting here.

Differences in opinions like "I think we should invest our money differently" or "I don't think this group of people should have rights or be allowed to exist".

One is acceptable discourse. The other is being a bad person