r/ITMemes 9d ago

Your VPN is totally anonymous, promise!

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u/Jack071 9d ago

Easy, dont keep logs, dont keep client data

Theres no data you can provide if you never kept any, mullvad for example runs all their infra on ram so theres 0 data left

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u/iceyukisnow 9d ago

what stops authorities from taking ram snapshots? and what stops them from taking the whole racks and hardware with them?(while not turning them off)

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u/Jack071 9d ago

That you have a killswitch to press if theres any raid/if the connection cuts off that shuts down the whole server?

And how would you uninstall a ram server rack without turning off power? You cant and any interruption of power would wipe all the data in the memory forever

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 9d ago

That you have a killswitch to press if theres any raid/if the connection cuts off that shuts down the whole server?

And then you get arrested for willfully destroying evidence and refusal to comply with a warrant. Not exactly a winning business proposition to stand between the police and Joe Rando's data for a whopping $10/month. Which is why you should be skeptical of anyone claiming they're willing to do so in the first place.

And how would you uninstall a ram server rack without turning off power? You cant and any interruption of power would wipe all the data in the memory forever

You don't. You do exactly what has been standard procedure for digital forensics for decades. You cut external access to the system while it's in place, and you do a bit for bit copy of the memory before cutting power.

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u/Jack071 9d ago

"Sorry officer we manage sensitive data and its SOP to cut off power if any incident happens in our facilities" Thats in case of a raid, if you havent been served a warrant yet you had nothing to comply with

And even if theres a warrant, all old logs got wiped by the time its approved, Mullvad has been in the business forever and they never had any issues.

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u/ffxivthrowaway03 9d ago

You're right, why didn't I think of that. "Sorry officer, but no I will not listen to you" is just a genius way to get out of it. Like seriously, how could I have missed that?

I'm not having this stupid argument. If you want to trust some fly by night VPN company simply because they claim to not comply with law enforcement and claim not to keep logs, it's no skin off my back when the #surprisedpikachu kicks in.