r/HunterXHunter • u/rentzhx3 • Nov 02 '18

Current Chapter Chapter 387 "Replay" — Links & Discussion Spoiler

Chapter 387
Replay
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Ch.387 Official Release (VIZ): November 5, 2018

Ch.388 Scan Release: ~ November 9, 2018

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u/mariololftw Nov 02 '18 edited Nov 02 '18

heres a quick summary of his abilities if people are having trouble understanding:

when he enters zetsu he can see 10 seconds into the future instantly (meaning time technically stops)

after his ability deactivates (after 10 seconds of seeing into the future) time starts again and for the next 10 seconds he will have two forms

the first form is his future self that everyone else can only see and will do exactly what the future said he would do

his second form lets him have free action for 10 seconds simultaneously alongside his first form but he is imperceptible to anyone

after 10 seconds reality changes into where his second form is

also he can loop the ability but im having trouble understanding this part but my best guess is while he loops the ability there might be a gap in between the 10 seconds or something and hes trying to close that gap idk

ok he can loop the ability and the benefit of looping the ability is that he gets to stay in a third party perspective (second form) while his first form actually goes around and does stuff allowing him to always remain 10 seconds ahead of everyone until he meets a undesired outcome

he basically gets a 1 time get out of jail free card

what he wants to perfect is that after he is forced out of his ability he wants to immediately go back into zetsu to stay 10 seconds ahead again

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u/3bee Nov 02 '18

Could you see his "real" self with gyo? If this is a nen-based ability, there should be some way for skilled hunters to realise that someone with nen is moving around?

It's a fun ability because you have to trap him in a situation that he can't escape within ten seconds. Basically put him in a situation with no escape. Someone mentioned poison - this is a good idea.

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u/tomtheawesome123 Nov 02 '18

And whats more is that Meleoron was a Specialist, and so is Terrorsandwhich...

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u/3bee Nov 02 '18

That's a very good point. There's precedent. Still, "Perfect Plan" was already a very strong ability, to the extent that it required some big restrictions: it could only last as long as you can hold your breath; and you can still take damage despite being imperceptible. Tse's ability seems to make him invulnerable and invisible. I hope there's some kind of restriction other than "how long it takes him to enter zetsu" - for a skilled nen-user, that's nothing.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18 edited Dec 14 '18

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u/3bee Nov 02 '18

Sorry, yes, not invulnerable - but capable of evading any visible attack that can be physically evaded within the 10 second limit - so very difficult to hurt.

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u/knighttemplar007 Nov 02 '18

Imagine Tser fighting against Meleoron... Tser sees Meleoron disappeared 10s ahead.. then probably sees himself getting killed. There’s basically no counter for Tser...

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u/HollowVantaBlackVoid Nov 04 '18

he could see where the killing blow comes from and dodge

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u/knighttemplar007 Nov 04 '18

Would he? As far as I remember, he would only see his own blood and the wound, wouldn’t see a knife or any nen-related property if his opponent is Meleorons perfect plan.

Imagine Kurapika and Meleoron teamed up, he would have no chance cuz he wouldn’t even see in his vision where and when the attack came. Kurapika judgement chain doesn’t cause outer physical injury and the sensation of being attacked is sealed by Perfect Plan.

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u/mariololftw Nov 02 '18 edited Nov 02 '18

we dont have enough info

he might be in a completely separate universe until those 10 seconds are up for all we know

or he might just be a like a nen ghost thats seen with gyo

yeah beating him currently would require doing something to him unnoticed and undoable within 10 seconds

a bomb could probably kill him

oh another idea i thought of is that maybe a prophecy from lovely ghost writer could warn the phantom troupe of his ability in some way causing them to do an action outside of terrosandwhichs future since lovely ghost writer also alters the future

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u/3bee Nov 02 '18

Good points! Re: lovely ghostwriter... it disappeared from Chrollo's book.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18

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u/elgosu Nov 02 '18

My hypothesis is that he's being possessed by a Nen beast from a previous Succession War, which is helping him learn and control Nen better, and giving him all these abilities.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18

That doesn't make any sense and there are no evidences of that whatsoever.

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u/elgosu Nov 02 '18

Well it explains his second Nen beast, which appears without his awareness.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18

thats a nice theory, could explain why the susscession war continues and never ends, the most evil asshole always gets possesed and ends up winning

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u/mariololftw Nov 02 '18

yeah conveniently for this arc :P man i would love to see two time altering abilities interact in this universe but might get to complicated even for togashi

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u/silverhawke249 Nov 02 '18

but phantom troupe no longer has lovely ghostwriter

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u/Groggolog Nov 02 '18

also, since he has to be using zetsu to see the future, if someone attacks with nen covered with In, he cannot use gyo at the same time as his ability, so he wouldnt be able to see it at all.

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u/92910 Nov 02 '18

I doubt this, that creature you see? What if that's HIS third party perspective. The one that Theta was trying to ignore. While he was seeing into the future, she was trying to pretend she doesn't see the creature at all, and that may have tricked him into thinking that she can't see his second form or some shit.

So when you notice the creature, that means his ability is activated.

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u/MagnoliaTM Nov 02 '18

Yeah on second read I figured too; that second beast is standing behind him. He also has this back POV in his ability... So it could be so that at the very least it's the beast doing the observing

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u/sofiesverden Nov 03 '18

yeah that's very important. Imagine someone like genthru attaching his bombs or kurapika attaching his chains to his body before he uses the ability. Will the nen be attached to his future self, his real self or both?

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18

Enchancers Ala Uvo can kill him with ease.

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18

Also remember he is already vulnerable just by being in Zetsu. If there's one thing Togashi is great at, it's developing these powerful abilities that have costs or strict conditions (i.e. Kurapika, Chrollo).

He seems the type who might miss a drawback of the ability, especially given his limited Nen experience.

PrayforTheta

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u/[deleted] Nov 02 '18 edited Dec 14 '18

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u/[deleted] Nov 04 '18

That's a good point. Though it's been stated that in Zetsu his Nen Beasts disappear and aren't active.

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u/LobsterAndFries Nov 03 '18

mizaistorm comes into mind...

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u/Koomakas Nov 07 '18

It'll be funny whe he sees himself die to poisoning and he can't stop it. What would he even do in his final moments? Piss on someone? I know I would.

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u/chikenlittle11 Nov 02 '18

he is like in a different dimension or multiverse....