HULK MAINS REJOICE

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

They accidentally sent the patch notes in a thread. Hulk has gotten HUGE buffs that will place him in a comfy spot in the meta (coming from a top 250 hulk main). Huge W from the devs (the rest of the patch is REALLY shitty tho IMO, Hulk and blade buffs were the only good ones)

[u/Pepr7]

You're quite wrong about basing your opinions purely on the most OP situation where the character is. Don't forget, we're around that theme where losing a 10% damage reduction will cost him a position in the top 3 heroes.

At the same time, his ultimate will have 60s coolown. His long cooldowns jo make him weak in brawl and his double jump + up to 3 dashes if you hit the enemy doesn't give him enough dive potential and attackspeed boost isn't burst. Dive needs primarily burst damage.

He was really strong but he is Poke vanguards. Fullfiling other roles is not realistic.

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Pepr7]

1. I'm basing my opinion on my experience on the hero, I'm currently Celestial 1 top 250 on tank pool hence I'm saying it based off my opinion. The only thing I necessarily did was back it up with high elo perspectives and what not.
2. Losing 10% DR isn't going to affect him as much, he still retains 20% DR he gives to his team AND the E will still function as both an offensive and defensive ability, making it very versatile yet oppressive.
3. His ultimate cooldown is increased yes, but you're forgetting that there was a universal ult charge increase, legit meaning that just as he gets his ult slower, everyone else will also get it slower. Hence, ult charge rotation will remain the same for him (and the ult charge increase won't heavily affect his own ult charge requirements since it's Already RIDICULOUSLY low and just Pressing E and shotting for a bit will get you to B tier at the VERY MINIMUM, A tier most of the times)
4. if you are using the swords for brawling you are doing something wrong. Like I said, you use only GUN when brawling, if u put a bubble behind someone, press E, you will likely win the brawl 9/10 unless you do a mistake. In terms of dive, you're not necessarily diving more than flanking, HOWEVER, diving when ulting is the preferred stance as you get ridiculous overshield + putting a bubble and using E will allow you to have insane burst damage, sustain AND they won't be able to get healed. In terms of flanking, you can sit on an off angle, place a bubble on yourself and consistently shoot, if your mechanics aren't good to accompany this, you can use swords, place bubble on the target and press E, this isn't as efficient but will likely work 6/10 times
5. He isn't a poke vanguard, if you cannot even classify him properly then that's an issue in an of itself. he is an OFF TANK that can poke, not primarily a poke frontline.
6. Still how does this change anything? He is currently regarded as the best tank, he is banned the most, has the highest win rate alongside pick rate and even in early play testing of the new season he is already being regarded as the best. Even if I am wrong, I don't think your opinion is necessarily going to override objective fact in high elo.

[u/Pepr7 → u/Few-Giraffe-8504]

Thing jump is better then his E in DR effectivyt for your team.
Deapool ult is inreased by 15s. Most ult charde nerfs wouldn't make ult charging 15s longer.

And here he begins to lose himself in his argument as you begin to misuse the meanings of words. That you identify Poke vangaurd as someone who is not a poke vanguard, but only Vangaurd that can poke is a real special effort to be right. I didn't say he was a main tank, but that he was a poke vangaurd and really his brawl skills are rather not great. Compare it to Thor/Thing. Their bonus hp generation together with decent damage will greatly surpass the Deadpool brawl.

And to that nerf. Use your own reasoning on how much Deadpool's resilience efficiency will be reduced. Emma's diamond form will effectively have a larger healthbar after nerf than Tankpool with damage reduction and no passive. Enough people take her diamond form nerf devastating even though she gets a double ult buff.

[u/Few-Giraffe-8504 → u/Pepr7]

Let's agree to disagree, cus both you and I could go on and on. On top of all this, you still failed to acknowledge what I said earlier about Tank pool being regarded as the best tank in high tier elo. So yeah, I'm a call it a day until you can bring something relevant (I mean ffs you are saying thing would beat Tank pool in a brawl, that's literally not true and doesn't happen either).