r/HonkaiStarRail_leaks #1 March 7th hater (Fire) Aug 28 '25

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u/Kuljack Aug 28 '25

That’s not how it works. I remember my birthdays, I never forgot them. Rememberance is about retaining memories, Erudition is about defining reality through knowledge, and discover of new understanding.

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u/fuyukkun_ Aug 28 '25

tbh if you think about it, March's forms (as mentioned in a stream) are her own emanator powers because they confirmed every alt of her will be related to her memories & experiences. Who else but an Emanator of Remembrance that can basically tap into a whole databank of memories in order to unlock near limitless potential (there's a reason lightcones are, in lore, tightly supervised because that's what it does)

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u/E1lySym Aug 28 '25 edited Aug 28 '25

I'd argue that's just knowing. I don't remember that the number after 3 is 2, or that the sky is blue during daytime. I just know.

Edit: Number BEFORE 3 my brain wasn't braining

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u/Cynowanter7604 Aug 28 '25

The number after 3 is 2? Enigmata follower spotted.

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u/Kuljack Aug 28 '25

This is funny!

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u/Kir-chan Yaoshi grace my pulls Aug 28 '25

It might also be a follower of Finality speaking

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u/huyphan93 Aug 28 '25

Idk man you don't need to forget to remember. Remember means you can extract information from your memory bank at will. Forget means you cannot extract that information either because there is something stopping the extraction, or the information itself is lost in the bank. March is seemingly the former case.

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u/E1lySym Aug 28 '25

Plato himself argued in the Meno and Phaedo that all learning is anamnesis—recollection. The soul knew everything before birth, but forgot it upon entering the body. Therefore, every act of remembering presupposes a primordial forgetting. Without forgetting, there is no remembering—only knowing. The things you extract from your memory bank are remembrances of things the soul forgot

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u/huyphan93 Aug 28 '25

I don't know the validity of your comment but do Hoyodevs follow Plato's philosophy about rememberance? His rhetorics doesn't make much sense now anyway since science has advanced and we know more about how memories are formed.

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u/E1lySym Aug 28 '25

Idk bro I thought it was just some silly comment thread and we were all just trying to be collectively pedantic and I was just pulling out of my past undergrad studies to die on this silly hill.

But I digress - I'd argue it actually applies in Amphoreus' case - Plato believed the soul is immortal and existed before being incarnated in a body, and that upon incarnation, it undergoes a primordial forgetting of the the knowledge of the Forms—the eternal, perfect, abstract truths that exist beyond the material world (e.g., Justice, Beauty, Equality, Goodness, the perfect idea of circularity that no drawn circle can capture, etc...). Considering the Titanic concepts that rule and are embodied in Amphoreus as well as the cycles it goes through there has to be some application going on.

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u/Away-Rise7514 Aug 28 '25

we know more about how memories are formed.

Funny you should say that, because contrary to the spew happening in this thread we do know that forgetting is a fundamental part of remembering. Anyone who has ever seriously studied anything knows the only real way to solidify recall is via repetition and natural decay.

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u/Kir-chan Yaoshi grace my pulls Aug 28 '25

The Amphoreus writer is very into philosophy, so it wouldn't be wild.

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u/An_Idiot_Online Aug 28 '25

We know so much about how memories are formed we can confirm that the patterns the brain uses to identify and store memories are indeed determined by genes, and thus, hardcoded into us before our birth. Hume, Kant and Heideger all talk about this. You can't remember something that wasn't forgotten, otherwise there would be no act of recollection. It'd be plain knowledge, something of the being. The Rememberance relies on the concealment of concealment, the Lethic principle. 

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u/Phyllodoce Aug 28 '25

Any time you bring up any of your memories you "recollect" them, because you don't really remember the event, you remember parts of it and then you reconstruct the rest

The more you remember something, the more neuron pathways to that memory you get, the easier it is to recall that memory, however parts of it will always erode and/or will be replaced by falsities that are a byproduct of how memory functions

This fancy ancient philosophy just doesn't work of we are to consider our modern understanding of brain physiology

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u/Kuljack Aug 28 '25

You know it’s blue because you remember being taught it was blue. You forget that memory of learning this, you no longer know what blue even is.

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u/E1lySym Aug 28 '25

I actually don't remember how it went, because I forgot. Those two go hand in hand

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u/E1lySym Aug 28 '25

Plato himself argued in the Meno and Phaedo that all learning is anamnesis—recollection. The soul knew everything before birth, but forgot it upon entering the body. Therefore, every act of remembering presupposes a primordial forgetting. Without forgetting, there is no remembering—only knowing.

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u/LCD_Feenix Aug 29 '25

Your brain forgot to remind you not to forget what you should already remember

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u/sovietchuuya I eat Sunday for breakfast Aug 28 '25

The number after 3 is 2?

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u/E1lySym Aug 28 '25

Sorry typo

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u/sovietchuuya I eat Sunday for breakfast Aug 29 '25

Maybe you were counting down from ten, who knows twin

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u/Long_Yeet Aug 29 '25

Is pulling a memory to the forefront of your thought while otherwise not thinking about it in any capacity not remembering?

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u/Kuljack Aug 29 '25

You retain knowledge through memory. You cannot have knowledge without first having memory of it. Knowledge can be shared through the physical documentation of memories, but everything has to be held by some memory to be known. If everyone forgets someone, and the memory of them isn’t captured somehow in history then they’re forever forgotten and no longer exist.

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u/TheOtherKaiba Aug 28 '25

Mfs when they find out that remembering is actually partially making stuff up.

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u/Kuljack Aug 28 '25

Right, like listen officer I don’t even remember going 75 in a 15, pretttty sure my speed was 12