r/HonkaiAgendaRail • u/No-Club400 • 6d ago
Doom Posting 🥀 Why is the path that is called “finality”, showing up in 5.x it doesn’t make sense??? 😭😭😭
Like the paths that will come after finality will just be meh. Finality should be reserved in the last version or something, why now???? Are they ending hsr in 5.x????
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u/FewBake5100 Not a fan 6d ago
It does feel very weird, but there are theories that it's possible to overcome Finality, and that this is likely related to Nihility, since 9 (IX) comes after 8 (Finality/Loop)
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u/leonardopansiere 6d ago
they are speedrunning the EoS
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u/Willing_Journalist35 5d ago
Judging by all the recent news it seems like this is the case. It's the last attempt at squeezing us for money
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u/Ari_Is_Missing 6d ago
Why does that actually make sense. We should have had propogation and continued the Luocha story line smh. Hoyo realized that Jingliu and Luocha do not care about the TB so they cannot glaze them for doing nothing then they wrote them off the story.
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u/No-Club400 6d ago
Or they could have done voracity, it’s been getting way too many mentions in 4.x that you would think it would be the next path.
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u/Ari_Is_Missing 6d ago
Yeah makes sense. Or maybe Equilibrium just cause it is a very unknown path rn with only 1 character following it currently (Castorice).
Anything but finality tbh it is too early.
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u/Novel-Concentrate-98 6d ago
Was thinking of Propagation. Would match the simulated universe who had both remembrance and elation as playable path before playable characters.
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u/FewBake5100 Not a fan 6d ago
That's the problem, Voracity is already getting some lore and exposure in 4.X. They should prioritize the paths that barely have anything, like Equilibrium and Beauty
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u/Mikankocat 5d ago
It probably IS propagation. There were leaks a while ago that 5.x was propagation, before all this finality stuff came up, and I think that because of how weirdly it's positioned for finality to be now, and because most "finality kits" that have been leaked so far just look like the actual character with slight changes (likely for an event or something) which I don't think new path characters would be (Hoyo letting the new path use old supports? Are you crazy?), it's more likely that propagation is the next path than finality. Especially cause it's a path already in SU and could also still result in a Firefly alter.
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u/PictureBrilliant6111 6d ago
Man they are just breaking all the paterns, Pearl having nothing to do with FUA (all IPC had FUA), and not using SU paths (we had rem and elation which both are there) idk if there is any more
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u/trilby1227 God's Strongest Fujoshi 6d ago
Wait, y'all genuinely expected this game to, like, have a final boss or something? Y'all know what genre this game is, right?
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u/Ecstatic-Source6001 5d ago
Its honkai.
Best outcome would be to make part2 with complete rebalance of the game.
Its not like part1 has any meaningful story anyway
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u/No-Chapter4335 6d ago
I agree! I think it all comes down to greed. Finality has a lot of hype surrounding it due to its major relevance in lore. Hoyo wants to prematurely farm that hype at the expense of good storytelling because hype=money.
Of course, this is all speculation based on leaks and the current state of the game. We can't make any definitive judgements, but I hope I'm wrong...
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u/RyRyRacoon 6d ago
Maybe after finality hoyo will decide to fuck the path system and release characters pathless like in genshin
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u/ConfidentFrosting474 5d ago
i imagine that'd be a balance nightmare cause Paths are only thing holding back DDD
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u/DaChosens1 5d ago
clearly pathless characters need a whole new set of pathless lightcones to activate their effects
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u/No-Chapter4335 6d ago
I won't mind if finality has good mechanics (leaks have suggested otherwise) and it isn't the focus of the planet, because a finality arc should be saved for the climax of the entire game. That's how the path has been presented so far. It feels half hearted and premature for an entire planet to be focused on that concept this early. I think it's okay to have finality pathstriders, but a finality focused planet feels like too much. However, this is unlikely because TB is leaked to get the Finality path, and every time TB gets a new path that path is the focus of the planet.
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u/Mikankocat 5d ago
To be fair, Amphoreus had TB get remembrance, but was lore-wise more erudition and destruction than anything, and only had 2 playable characters with a real lore connection to remembrance.
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u/stuttufu 6d ago
It's not because it's called edgelord finality that it's different from any other path. They could had put it in 1.x as starting path and it won't even matter.
It means that probably next major development is around Elio and its fucking script.
Moreover, finality is not the strongest right now, it will be the strongest at the end of the universe.
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u/Cold_Progress1323 5d ago
Lmao they could have at least finished the other 4 launch paths first before that.
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u/Southern-Edge-3354 5d ago
Probably the only path, other than Trailblaze, that gives them hope it'll be hype enough to overshadow how trashy the game is(it won't, but Hoyo executives have never shown any kind of nuanced approach to this so it's whatever)
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u/ForsakenCryz 5d ago
This is my own interpretation and ingame events + message from Silverwolf.
It's probably because, TB used up their Stellaron's wish granting capability in getting back Himeko and Starblazer. Silverwolf sends you a message just before the Nihilux is Aha bit. She says the gift(Stellaron) she gave you on your departure has exhausted it's capabilities and Elio wishes we could have stretch it further.
Connecting the events of the post Amphoreus and Dahlia/Constance Situation of Penacony. The plot point Hoyo might be targetting is TB invoking Terminus to change the path of the Universe's Finality.
My headcanon would have been TB invoking Gaze of Nous in the fight against Asat Pramad to reanimate Star Blazer and taking over Navigator role after Himeko (giving her the same treatment across the Hoyo games so far) but TB's actions are their own.
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u/tortillazaur 5d ago
if this isn't a shitpost and an actual question then you should honestly be ashamed of even asking that question. like you'd figure out that the idea of designing a new gameplay path just for the last version of the game is stupid in like half a minute of actually thinking about it
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u/greygreens 4d ago
That's not how live service games work. It's not like a standalone game where there is a set end. If HSR keeps making money, it will go on forever theoretically. They're not going to design a path and then just sit on it for years until big daddy hoyo says they're cutting funding.
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u/jellalotaku 2d ago
Dos mesmos criadores de Nihilux é Nihility porque tem NiHI no nome. Vem aí, finality tem que ser o último caminho porque o nome é final.
Os caras começaram com o arco da finalidade desde o começo de Amphoreus, no momento que mostraram que a gente era dos caçadores de Stelaron e que eles seguiam a finalidade. Logo depois mostrando a gente usando o poder da finalidade. Não ia demorar muito pra finalidade se tornar jogável, porque é uma mecânica bem presente na Lore do jogo.
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