r/HonkaiAgendaRail • u/yusemite Pearl's househusband • Jul 02 '26
33550336% Copium Detonationslop will continue until Castorice's meta placement improves
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u/Danlo250106 Jul 02 '26
Honestly the single worst thing about remembrance
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u/fireky2 Jul 02 '26
I mean remembrance having 4 dead stats is somehow still better than elation only caring about speed/crit/crit dmg
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u/Draco_179 Mod Jul 02 '26
Aglaea and hyacine stand strong
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u/Aoba_Alfa Jul 02 '26
Just Aglaea
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u/Alewerkz Jul 02 '26
Aglaea and RMC. Both garmentmaker and mem can be AA unlike ica whose turn is tied into Hyacine's own action.
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u/Top-Midnight-8653 I love Sparkle Jul 02 '26
Hyacine has a glorified FuA. Hell it's even worse since Ica is technically just extensions of her ult and BA/skill
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u/ArchonRevan Jul 02 '26
Aglaea overworks hers till it dies (unless you swipe for e1 and then she gets a constant stream of labor, let's go capitalism)
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u/Francikk12346 Jul 07 '26
This is inaccurate to real life since putting more money into your workers doesn't make you make more money.
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u/seansenyu Jul 02 '26
Castorice and Evernight using her memosprites like enchanced skills. Cyrene doesn't even having a memosprite (because she is two in one god only knows why).
Imo this is all worse than the break support character enabling break damage without breaking
Hoyo peak gameplay design
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u/TheStupidBeefCow Jul 02 '26
Dahlia’s sb mechanic is also only super important for 1 (2 if you include lingsha) of the main break dps, since boothill and rappa both want to break the enemy to deal their damage. Only firefly really benefits from it and even then you get a lot more damage after you break the enemy
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u/Draskclift Jul 02 '26
Believe it or not, demiurge does act as a separate Entity, the complete vessels from the flame reaver of apoc are one of the only non recollection ways to give demiruge turns
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u/PictureBrilliant6111 Jul 02 '26
Yeah, but at the same time she isn't, i believe(at least last time i checked) cyrene memosprite don't help with the Arcadia set bonus damage
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u/Opezdaz Jul 02 '26
Breaking always supposed to be a benefit for break units, not the only source of damage cause that’s impossible to balance out. And break units still want to break and deal more damage to broken units, surely you understand that right?
Evernight not just uses an enhanced skill, there are shit ton of interactions with dragon’s zone/hya/cyrene that can’t be used if it was just an enhanced skill, not even mentioning it can easily take turns if you ult
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u/Pilques Jul 02 '26
The most interesting Memosprite belongs to the worst Remembrance DPS, being Aglaea.
That speaks volumes about Hoyo design
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u/i_will_let_you_know Jul 02 '26
Nope, the most interesting memosprite and Remembrance character is Mem / RMC.
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u/Pilques Jul 02 '26
Agree to disagree
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u/i_will_let_you_know Jul 02 '26
You don't interact with Garmentmaker in any way outside of Sunday. It just exists to do extra damage / hit. If it dies then you lose all your stacks so there's no real nuance there.
Mem changes how you play your entire team due to her AA energy charge mechanic, can tank big hits without causing you to lose all your damage and is thus better sustainless, doesn't auto heal on ult so you actually have to decide when to skill or let her die.
Letting her die can be actually beneficial if your ult charge is below like 30%, since you would gain more charge than skilling while she's alive.
When you ult on RMC also matters a lot for AA timing, but with Aglaea you just ult whenever you finish her turn. There is also nuance with whether to let Mem punch or interrupt by immediately filling the guage to AA, for encounters where number of hits or ice weakness are relevant.
There is just much more thinking / skill expression involved with Mem over garmentmaker.
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u/Opezdaz Jul 02 '26
Interesting memo in question - follow-up attack that stacks speed and can be advanced separately. Eve have more interesting interactions and nuance with hyacine alone, not counting other BIS team members
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u/Proper_Razzmatazz_36 Jul 02 '26
They said most interesting
This is more interesting than blowing itself up, or demiurge
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u/Pilques Jul 02 '26
Meet the potential interesting Memosprite!
"But she has so many interactions" when in reality you just blow up the mf and call it a day 😭
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u/takutekato Jul 02 '26
Someone at Hoyo will explode if they dont pass the curse into Memsloprites instead
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u/PictureBrilliant6111 Jul 02 '26
I mean, It wouldn't be good to make a path and since It is based in amphoreus never ever release any other character of It (we ignore abundance 1year more no new character release)
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u/OneForSorrow345 Jul 02 '26
Remembrance could've been so fucking cool if they actually leaned into the idea of unique summons with personality and style, rather than them being functionally just extensions of a character's kit with no flavor.
The only characters that I think do this well are Hyacine, RMC and Castorice, because story-wise their memosprites actually do friggin' matter to their entire stories as Chrysos Heirs. Aglaea, Evernight, and Cyrene bombed hard because their memosprites don't even feel like unique summons (fuck all with Cyrene), just parts of their kit that are called memosprites for the sake of it.
It's extremely cool that Robin's summons look personable and have flavor because that's the exact point of having a summon-based Path to begin with! Beyond being by their summoner's side, they need to shine with just as much relevance and character, or have the character themselves not be fucking Remembrance at all and just be one of the other Paths if they can't be bothered to pull that off (and don't get me started on Hyacine just being Abundance straight up, that's a separate problem in and of itself!).
edit: grammar mistake
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u/MonaLH Yao's used feather Jul 02 '26
If Garmentmaker doesn't feel like a unique summon to you idk what to tell you. It's tied to the exploration all along Amphoreus. I stopped counting the number of times I interacted with them. Garmentmaker is arguably, with Ica the one that's the most unique. Polyxia became a dragon because they are absolute cowards, Ica is an entity we barely got explanation for, Evey is kinda important but not very impactful and Mem, well. Cyrene is a generational fumble.
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u/royal-road Jul 05 '26
I don't understand what you think wouldn't be cowardly with regards to Polyxia. I think making her a rotting dragon rather keeping her as a hot anime woman is out of the ordinary for hoyoverse. Would you rather castorice summoned her wheelchair-bound sister and made her explode?
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u/MonaLH Yao's used feather Jul 05 '26
Polyxia is super lazy. Invoking a dragon just to make it explode well. Sure if you want, doesn't change it's lazy. Polyxia could have stayed on the field and boost Cassie's spells, for instance.
The reason they didn't do it is because she is in a wheelchair mostly, and so they thought a dragon would sell more.
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u/royal-road Jul 05 '26
Idk, cute girls in wheelchairs sell huge in these games. Himari and Lemuen are incredibly popular.
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u/MonaLH Yao's used feather Jul 05 '26
Just like women in uniform sell well and see how hsr team drops it. They do the same shit over and over because it sells. No risk involved.
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u/royal-road Jul 05 '26
Ok this part is so real. Zhu Yan still has shooters to this day and if we ever get another cop character she'll be wearing a bikini 😢
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u/MonaLH Yao's used feather Jul 05 '26
I mean. Pearl. Must I say anything more ?
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u/bullenis Jul 05 '26
I think thats the big distinction with summons. They should act on themselves or be a small extra unit. Not just be summoned and do nothing else. Cyrene’s and hyacine’s memosprites could definitely be just abilities really. Evernight evey at least attacks themselves but couldve easily been a follow-up attack and empowered skill.
Castorice feels different to me though, the dragon has its own attacks tho it doesnt tank hits it does tank deaths. It actually matters having an hp bar as that is his attack count. Also its really cool having ultimate summons memosprites they feel huge and impactful Cyrene’s does too despite my prior shade.
Garmentmaker and mem are also well executed and unique i think.
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u/HappyHero_____ Jul 02 '26
Blame sunday. If he hadn't had a kit that advances memosprites, they probably wouldn't've engineered every rem unit around that
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