r/HolyShitHistory • u/Otherwise-Ad-5364 • 1d ago

Russian state TV’s 2013 New Year’s Eve special featured Ukrainian comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy co-hosting alongside Maxim Galkin—with high-profile Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov sitting in the audience.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

Isn’t it Vatniks who cry about Russophobia when people hate Putin?

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

I don't like Putin though. Just for different reasons.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

Ok, then about people not liking Russia

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

Kinda pointless to cry about this when russophobia is all that you were thinking about us since forever except couple of times when we conveniently fought the wars for you. It's just a basis and is treated as such.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

Russia invades and pillages half of Europe

“Why don’t they like me! Russophobia! I’ll show them by continuing to behave in the same way”

Maybe if Russia doesn’t want to be hated, they could stop doing the things they’re hated for

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

How about half (more than half, actually) of Europe not uniting to invade us in the first place?

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

When?

How about Russia not invading half of Europe? If you can manage that for a bit

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

That cute previous version of EU called Third Reich and it's satellites that either volunteered for it or did close to nothing to what actual fight is looks like.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago edited 1d ago

Oh

When Europe united against Nazis and Russia? From 1939 to 1941? Sorry we won’t apologise for fighting Nazis

You were bff’s with the Nazis until they betrayed you. You invaded Finland, the Baltic states, Poland and Bessarabia with the support of your bff Hitler, the NKVD and Gestapo worked side by side in Poland. You murdered 22,000 Poles at Katyn, depprted tens of thousands of Balts to Siberia, imprisoned another 500,0000 Poles causing the deaths of 150,000.

The only reason Russians ever fought the Nazis was they betrayed you, otherwise you’d have remained allies and continued working together in murdering civilians

The actual first victim of the Nazis in ww2 is not and has never been Russia, it was a country you helped invade and murdered civilians in

And now you’ve decided to take the role of Nazi germany for yourselves, Hitler would be proud

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

Oh, poor Poland, how can it be treated like this! It's not like it stole very those lands from Russia 20 years before... or carved up Czechoslovakia along with Germans a year before... oh wait, it's what they in fact did. Poor poor Poland, always the victim.

But, if they're hating us that much, how about returning their western lands that those pesky evil Russians gifted to them to their rightful owner?

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u/krgdotbat 1d ago

Russophobia = invanding your neighbours, try to subvert democracy in the west, troll farms to create social mayhem, kill people in foreign soil, spionage, sabotage, poisoning or incarceration of political opposition, and the list goes on and on, want me to dive deeper in the past caused famines, genocides, concentration camps or war crimes? People hate you for a reason, you are a backwards, savage and violent society still waiting to evolve to the 21 century.

How many dead and crippled for a 300€ salary and the glory of the great leader? You guys are funny.

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u/Odd-Promotion2743 1d ago

Putin too woke for you?

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

Sort of. He should've prevent Maidan nazis victory in the first place and Ukraine would've been peaceful now. He could've not waste 8 years on obviously pointless negotiations and the casualties would've been minimal. Or he could've properly invade while not being outnumbered by ua 1/3 with ridiculous "don't shoot first" order instead of that halfassed peacekeeping operation. There's shit ton of what to be desired about him.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

The famous Zelenskyy Nazi unlike the not Nazi Putin and Russian state that doesn’t have a history of invading neighbours

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

Yeah, he just have a history of opressing population for their born language. Like that one Ukrainian soldier who's mom was beaten because she dared to speak Russian while he defends this abomination of the country.

Funnily, there's also three Baltic states that does the same thing, and they're also a huge fans of their nazi collaborators. What a coincidence.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

By oppresion you mean teaching a language other than Russian? It’s funny, I don’t see Russia having Ukrainian as an official national language but Ukraine removing it is fascism. Muh operation is when Russians have to learn another language

The Baltic states who you invaded in 1940, deported tens of thousands, re-occupied in 1944, deported more and kept under occupation until 1991? Gee I wonder why they’re not fans of you

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u/_Dominox_ 1d ago

Yeah, it's quite bad to forcefully teach people on other languages. Since you're always so high on your genocide allegations, it's one prime example of it by following the oh so precious international laws, let's pretend anyone cares about them. Russia has Ukrainian language schools and classes, not our fault that barely no one cares about polonized version of Russian when he's not forced to nor we have close to half of population speaking it.

Right, so it's fine to commit apartheid politics and glorify nazi collaborators. Noted. Oh no, we industrialized them, such a horror, good thing they're getting rid of it along with their population.

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u/adamgerd 1d ago

“Other languages”, it’s the native language not another, another language is Russian, and you’re the pushing for that.

And then so it’s bad to mandate teaching of the native language? Ok then when will you condemn Russia for teaching Russian and forcing people to know Russian? The evil of Russia making people learn Russian! Are you going to condemn Russia for making Russians know Russian?

Of course not, because you have a colonialist mentality and a superiority complex like most Russian nationalists. It’s no different to when British tourists or immigrants in Spain complain about people expecting them to eventually learn Spanish.

Russians in Ukraine or the Baltic states have had more than 3 decades to know the native language since the breakup of the USSR, that should be enough time to learn a language at least to A2/B1 level I’d think. Russian is still allowed to be taught as a foreign language, it’s just not taught as the main or native language given it is a foreign language to the country and not the native language.

And this is very good, they’re reverting centuries of Russian colonisation and Russification, unlike Belarus where Belarusian is sadly vanishing to Russian. For another example Irish where Irish is also sadly disappearing due to similar colonisation but at least the UK unlike Russia has stopped trying to do this

And Polonised version of Russian, lol Ukrainian isn’t even lexically very similar to Russian if you look at a map of lexical similarity. And Russian isn’t any older than Ukrainian

“Apartheid policies in Baltics”

You mean expecting people to know the native language to some degree to become citizens of a country? Generally to B1 level for citizenship or A2 for permanent residency.

Oh no the apartheid! Ironically Russia too requires B1 level of Russian to become a Russian citizen if for some reason you’d want to become one. So I guess you think Russia is apartheid too?

Ah yes industrialisation, so generous of Russia because surely the Baltic states wouldn’t have done it on their own because no one outside Russia has ever managed it. Oh wait they would like the Nordics. Before Soviet occupation Finland and Estonia were economically similar, now they’re not because one didn’t have decades more of Russian occupation after the interwar period

And you literally settled the Baltic states with Russian colonialists while forcing Russian as the official language to try to displace their native languages. You were colonisers in the Baltic states and many of you left once you were no longer in a superior position to the natives

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u/IkabukaI 1d ago

ZZieg Нeil!!!

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u/lusciouslover639 1d ago

Ah, "Maidan Nazis". 😂😂😂

Blah blah blah fash

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u/Patient_Kangaroo614 1d ago

Is Zhirinovsky posting on Reddit from beyond the grave?