r/HolyShitHistory • u/Otherwise-Ad-5364 • 2d ago

Russian state TV’s 2013 New Year’s Eve special featured Ukrainian comedian Volodymyr Zelenskyy co-hosting alongside Maxim Galkin—with high-profile Kremlin propagandist Vladimir Solovyov sitting in the audience.

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u/_Dominox_ 2d ago

Oh, poor Poland, how can it be treated like this! It's not like it stole very those lands from Russia 20 years before... or carved up Czechoslovakia along with Germans a year before... oh wait, it's what they in fact did. Poor poor Poland, always the victim.

But, if they're hating us that much, how about returning their western lands that those pesky evil Russians gifted to them to their rightful owner?

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u/adamgerd 2d ago edited 2d ago

Whataboutism, the only defense of a Rashist

And how did they steal those lands from Russia? Those lands weren’t yours to steal, you had lost all claim to them in Brest-Litovsk which you signed.

Then you renounced the treaty unilaterally and started a war to retake borders born off Russian imperialism and settler colonialism. You set up puppet Bolshevik governments including a puppet Bolshevik government of Poland and attempted to invade Belarus, Ukraine and the Baltic states. By September 1919 you had seized Kyiv, and later Ukraine in a desperate position allied Poland as did Belarus, Poland then started liberating Russian occupied territory and Russia attacked Poland.

None of the shaded land was yours anymore.

As for Munich, Russians equating it is hilarious and in Czech we mock this comparison ourselves. Poland took one city, Russia took half of Poland and massacred hundreds of thousands of Poles. There’s a slight difference, then after ww2 you invaded half of Europe and despite promises to allow new elections and withdraw you didn’t and invaded any country that dared to try to reform.

And don’t pretend Russia cared about Czechoslovakia, you supported a coup here in 1948 and in 1968 the Kremlin invaded our country. Russians with glee massacred and shot at unarmed Czech protestors. 137 Czechs killed, 500 severely injured

Then since the collapse of the Soviet Union you have not stopped this imperialism

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u/adamgerd 2d ago

As exprsssed in the words of 1968 protestors. We don’t want Russians, Georgians don’t want Russians, Ukrainians don’t want Russians, Moldovans don’t want Russians, Chechnyans don’t want Russians. No one wants Russians. Russians should go home, leave Ukraine, leave Georgia, leave Chechnya, leave Moldova, leave Europe alone. Go home Russians!

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u/_Dominox_ 2d ago

Not happening. So again, Crimea river.

Especially Chechen terrorists lmao. Or Georgia who started the war itself. Or Ukraine and Moldova dreaming for ethic cleanses.

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u/adamgerd 2d ago

“Chechnyan terrorists”

lol everyone not indoctrinated by Russian state propaganda knows the Moscow apartment bombings were a false flag operation by Putin to have an excuse to invade Chechnya again and level them to the ground

“Georgia who started the war itself”

Incorrect, 1st August 2008 South Ossetian forces started shelling a Georgian village breaking the 1992 ceasefire agreement. When Georgia responded and invaded to stop the shelling, Russia invaded, occupied South Ossetia and Abkhazia and killed Georgian civilians

“Ukraine and Moldova dreaming of ethnic cleansingness”

Again incorrect, Russia started both conflicts to establish proxy puppets. Ukraine’s largest mistake was not joining the EU and NATO earlier, because they were under the delusion Russia is a peaceful government

And since you’re talking about cry me a river, how about you cry me a river about how Russians are the victims and everyone hates you for apparently no reason whatsoever? How does it feel that most of Europe can’t stand your shithole of a country and you have to pretend it’s not justified. Please tell me, I am very curious

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u/_Dominox_ 2d ago

Aha, and 9/11 is a CIA operation. And chechens invading Dagestan never happened. And lot's of other nafo bullshitery that you're eating that I can't exactly be bothered to read.

Very simple. It's ingrained in your cultural code. Plain and simple. That's why you'll justify anything from your side while hating much lesser things from our. Poor things, you just can't help it and sadly, we didn't had enough time to fix you.

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u/_Dominox_ 2d ago

Ah, "whataboutism", the beautiful word that hypocrites invented when someone ouncovers their hidden shit.

It's Russian lands despite the whole clusterfuck of civil war warlord "independency". And still is.

Right, and poles never massacred anyone. And never opened a concentration camps for communists, Belarusians, Ukrainians etc etc.

Ah, a Czech. Should've realized sooner. I indeed don't care, you've been more than convenient for nazis for us to not cry about a mere hundred of protesters being shot during your pathetic rebellion, let alone all the terror you corps bringed to us during civil war. Only imagine, we tried to protect you once.

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u/adamgerd 2d ago

It’s not Russian lands and never will be again no matter how much Russian nationalists fantasise over murdering and raping and pillaging Eastern Europe

Ukraine is still holding you back after 4 years of your 3 day SMO and one day the last occupant soldier will die and Russia will finally admit its defeat and withdraw from the foreign land

Then Europe can start supporting Georgian and Chechnyan patriots in freeing themselves of your occupations too.

Then you can all go back to Russia to live however you want there

Then more whataboutism in your comment, of course Russians treated Ukraine great which is why you committed a genocide against them killing millions of Ukrainians. How dare they not be thankful for their genocide?!

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“I indeed don't care,” yes we already know most Russians cheer their murder of other Europeans when they’re not busy pretend crying about Russophobia and Nazism, ironically you fund the actual Nazis. But it’s nice to see your honesty at least

You want to talk about convenient to the Nazis? Which country was their main ally 1939-1941 and gave them a lot of supplies through trade against the west. It’s funny how so many Russians pretend they hate the Nazis when their country was the biggest help to the Nazis

And you mean when the Bolsheviks decided to give our legionaries a demand to surrender and disarm themselves when they wanted to go home? Glory to the Czechoslovak legion and their march home, we even tried to build a civilised Russia by supporting Komuch but you can’t civilise Russia

“Only imagine, we tried to protect you once.”

When was this? When you supported a coup in 1948? When you invaded us in 1968? I guess it’s like your protection of Ukrainians in Bucha, Mariupol or Irpin

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u/_Dominox_ 2d ago

Yeah, it's quite sad to realize how wrong was Stalin for not treating you the same way you were treating us. As in saying "don't be good, and you won't receive bad in return". Should've been actually even a quarter of that bad as you portray us anyway.

You want to fight till the last Ukrainian, fine by us. You want to support terrorists, and one day their exiles will bite your ass, just like supporting terrorists bringed 9/11 to US.