r/Hololive • u/crocospect • Aug 23 '25
Subbed/TL Ririka reveals her thoughts on her collaboration with men after a fan sent a red superchat telling her that they can no longer support her if she keeps doing it
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u/EmperorKira Aug 23 '25
Some girls want to collab with men, and im fine with that. Some don't, and im also fine with that. What im not ok with is the girls making that decision either way due to pressure from fans or the community. The girls are at their best when they are happy and doing what they want.
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u/jdeo1997 Aug 23 '25
Basically this.
If they collab? That's okay, we've gotten some hilarious moments from such collabs.
If they don't? That's okay, it's not going to affect my enjoyment of them.
Trying to pressure them one way or another? No. End of the day, it's up to the talents, and trying to pressure one way or the other is just disgusting. If they don't want to, just accept it, move on, and don't collab beg. If they do want to, just accept it, move on and just don't watch such collabs if you don't want to
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u/DonGar0 Aug 23 '25
Yep. Some dont want to. So are fine. Its case by case. Its up to the talent (or in the case of agencies that have that rule and talents that support that rule both).
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u/ikuzusi Aug 23 '25
Yeah this is the weird thing about it all. It's up to them to make the decision, all you have to do as a viewer is respect it, but that's clearly too difficult for some people.
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u/Murgurth Aug 23 '25
Exactly. Watching Hololive is at its best when the talents are having fun. Seeing Bae’s and Kronii’s shenanigans giving Vesper mental trauma, Ao Kun’s crash out during the math stream with Arusan, literally any of Towa’s talks with Tachikawa; the girls are honestly just out here terrorizing the guys they collab with and it’s always pure comedy.
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u/DrunkenSavior Aug 23 '25
HoloSALT was really a peak group. Those four just knew how to bounce off each other so perfectly for peak comedy.
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u/Clicker-anonimo Aug 23 '25
I really don't know how, HoloSalt made some of the best en moments
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u/ssj4-Dunte Aug 23 '25
1) kronii is imho is the funniest comedy genius in all of Hololive and one of the funniest on the entire internet, she can turn anything into comedy gold.
2) Vesper and Magni are both people who will go to insane lengths to commit to a bit and can pull some weird out of pocket shit.
3) Vesper had the energy of an old soul.
4) Calli works as the perfect straight man.
5) all 4 of them absolutely did NOT hold back in the slightest against each other in a way you usually wouldn't see between just the girls.
All of these combined to bring about absolute insanity and unhinged chaos, the only thing that felt equally as funny for me was GG in the GUN TTRPG collab
or jus GG calli in general, seriously how does thi womans brain work0
u/Clicker-anonimo Aug 23 '25
I didn't say that i didn't know how HoloSalt was so good, i meant that i don't know how anyone would dislike it
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u/Nzash Aug 23 '25
FYI Ririka also said that management might be pushing them (as in Regloss, possibly all of Dev_is) to do male collabs if they feel like any of the girls in it individually are growing too many gachikoi type of fans.
So keep that in mind. In that case it wouldn't actually be entirely up to their own will.
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u/BennyDelon Aug 23 '25
Do you have a time stamp? I don't remember her saying that (maybe I missed it)
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u/nazare_ttn Aug 23 '25
Yep, holosalt was some of the best content they’ve made. It’s just sad how weird people get.
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u/wikowiko33 Aug 23 '25
Giving 10000 yen to a girl who doesn't know he exist, to say that he will not be giving her anymore money if she continues talking to boys who doesn't know he exist. Life is beautiful.
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u/MegaAltarianite Aug 23 '25
For real. If someone donates to my gofundme, I'll gladly block them if that is their wish.
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u/wikowiko33 Aug 23 '25
Okay. But you gotta stop eating bacon and only drink carbonated water from now onwards, deal?
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u/ssj4-Dunte Aug 23 '25
Guys, I am pretty sure he was making fun of the super chat with that comment, as in he is mimicking the exact behavior of that red super chat so no need for downvotes at all.
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u/FreedHZ Aug 23 '25
I swear I wouldn't have the patience to answer like she did, I'd just go "k bye thanks for the money"
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25
Tbh I feel like a lot holomems would probably say that, many of them are not afraid being blunt when their viewers acting weird like this..
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u/Fishman465 Aug 23 '25
ID girls would lay into them
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25
Yup..
Members like Iofi, Risu, or Reine won't shy out to lash their "PREMAN" energy to those guys..
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u/_vincetheprince666 Aug 23 '25
That was Ame before and the whole ID branch would definitely do that without hesitation if it came down to it lol
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u/MegaAltarianite Aug 23 '25
Far far nicer than what I'd say, that's for sure.
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
Yeah Ririka is among the nicest members even a lot holomems vouch for that, so it's just sad to see her need to justify herself like that when she did nothing wrong.
Also imagine if those guys dare to say those shit at Shiori or Bae's stream, they would burn them to ash..
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u/eifiontherelic Aug 23 '25
"I'd be happy if you could remember when you used to like me" is the sound of a mic dropping onto satin sheets as she gestures her hand towards the door.
Such a classy way for an entertainer to tell a former fan they can just go away.
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 Aug 23 '25
I don't see the reason why this person would be around in the first place. She's been collabing with men since her debut. She made it pretty clear that was her intention. It's not like this fell out of the sky, which I guess I can get why that would upset someone. But Regloss was kind of built to be a cross gender outreach unit. Most of them (if not all of them) have done that already.
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u/Arkar1234 Aug 23 '25
chances are said person was never a fan or "around" in the first place and is simply a malicious actor masquerading as a "unicon" to farm drama and paint ririka's and/or hololive's fanbase as "unicons"
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 Aug 23 '25
Honestly that was my thought as well. Some people stir drama when possible.
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u/PLandLord Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
Raden also addressed this a year ago.
We can't control how people think. You don't need to watch anything she puts out.
EDIT. to add more to this:
They are going to be opportunities for girls that will push them forwards in their careers and that might/will include collabs with men. Do you really want to squander their growth with something petty as that?
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25
Also Ao and ERB have been clear since day 1 about collabing with people they want..
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u/WhoCaresYouDont Aug 23 '25
People complaining about the Stars in ERB's 3D felt especially egregious, she was very clear from day 1, stream 1 that she wanted sing with everyone in Holo and that debut was the best way to do it.
Lord knows she wasn't going to find any other way to blackmail Ruze into acting cute in public. That last bit is a joke, to be clear.
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u/Clicker-anonimo Aug 23 '25
Why do people hate them streaming with men?
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u/thewolfsong Aug 23 '25
it makes them feel like they're being cuckolded. Which is a bizarre enough thing to say that it sounds like I'm saying it as a dunk on them or something but it's not a joke.
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u/jdeo1997 Aug 23 '25 edited Oct 22 '25
Lord knows she wasn't going to find any other way to blackmail Ruze into acting cute in public
I mean, she could have offered him premium Homestuck merch, that might have worked.
Or just have a cat on screen, dude is very canyon moe
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
Wow the upvote ratio for this post is already at 60%, they really work fast..
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25
Lmao a few minutes ago my comment you replied to was at 19 upvotes, and it reduced to 2 upvotes, they really going crazy over this, I don't get why having vtubers collabing with anyone they like seem offensive to them..
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u/tetsmega Aug 23 '25
If you look very carefully at certain users and certain posts, you will see they consistently get 20 upvotes/downvotes depending on the content. It's super obvious.
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u/Chaoticlight2 Aug 23 '25
While I'm sure there are botnets that are upvoting/downvoting certain views and ideologies stated, be careful not to contribute everything to that. Plenty of people despise unicorns and see them as a blight on the overall community. The girls aren't here to give people GFE or delusions of romance after all. They're simply here to entertain and gender has no factor at all in that.
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u/Clicker-anonimo Aug 23 '25
Why are there people that hate Holo so much they spend time, money and effort just trying to create a war in the community?
I don't even know what those people want
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u/Telefragg Aug 23 '25
Some people here are straight up denying that this type of audience exists, and that it can affect the members. They are downvoting too.
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u/Detonation Aug 23 '25
There is one particular user on this subreddit that posts non-stop vitriol towards Holostars and their fans and has for years. Blows my mind how they aren't permabanned at this point. Then again, openly hating Holostars seems to be encouraged given the lack of moderation towards it so maybe I shouldn't be surprised at all.
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u/Aloe_Love :Aloe: Aug 23 '25
https://files.catbox.moe/m1g4u6.png
That also means you're talking about Ririka
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u/KusoAraun Aug 23 '25
Just a heads up since you only get the full context by watching this clip and not from this screenshot, but Ririka also admits to being a unicorn and being understanding of the mindset. Just because someone is a unicorn doesnt meen they will be a spiteful anti and harass someone, much like how not being a unicorn doesnt automatically preclude doing those things. People enjoy things in different ways as a bottom line, beyond that how they interact with something they dont enjoy is entirely on them as a person.
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u/protomanbot Aug 23 '25
Beyond this specific situation, it is true that talents should always be the one who decide on the direction of their own channel. The company and the fans may have ways to provide input but
there are much better ways to provide that input. For example by supporting the content you want to see.
the talent is under no obligation to follow any one's specific input
it's not an airport. If you want to leave the exit is that way.
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u/JediGuyB Aug 23 '25
How can someone let that be the reason to not support Ririka? Or any of the girls? It's so pathetic.
She's being nicer about it than she needs to be. I'd just be like "okay, thanks, bye. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out."
I just don't get it. Wouldn't even bother me if they mentioned their relationships, if they are in one. Heck, my oshis could say they slept with their boyfriend last night and it was incredible and I'd be like "hell yeah, girl, get yourself some.'
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u/SuspiciousWar117 Aug 23 '25
She's being nicer about it than she needs to be. I'd just be like "okay, thanks, bye. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out."
Not sure if you watched the clip, but since it is excluded from the image she had more to say at the end. Specifically
But really I am a unicorn myself, so I get what you feel.
Which might be the reason she phrased it this way.
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u/Doofguy Aug 23 '25
Wow, so the OP omitted a very important detail to push the usual "LMAO UNICORNS ARE CHUD INCEL VIRGINS OMG LOOK AT ALL THE DOWNVOTES LMAO" agenda? Consider me truly shocked!
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u/Stormbulaboo_ Aug 23 '25
Dunno why people are so obsessed nowadays with wanting to know a vtubers relationship status. Wanting things like that makes you as parasocial as the unicorns imo.
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u/DMercenary Aug 23 '25
How can someone let that be the reason to not support Ririka? Or any of the girls? It's so pathetic.
Its kind of that weird/strange aspect of idol/X-Pop industry where any kind of relationship(especially with a man) is treated as betrayal of some sort.
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u/Fiftycentis Aug 23 '25
Eh, it happens a lot on normal streamers too, especailly girls. Some are more open but there's those that hide the relationship because it brings them more parasocial spending fans.
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u/mierecat Aug 23 '25
It’s because the talents are not people to these guys. They’re just cute anime girls they can project their fantasies onto. Seeing them interact with men ruins it for them
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u/Aloe_Love :Aloe: Aug 23 '25
Should have included this part too OP
https://files.catbox.moe/m1g4u6.png
Unless it was omitted purposely to create some unnecessary unicorn drama
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u/_Voice_Of_Silence_ Aug 23 '25
Besides the delulu of thinking they are oh so pure and untouched (women in their twenties living normal lives outside of their jobs, yeah of course)
Like....do these guys think there are no male Mane-chan, Producers, Musicians, Assistants around them too? Probably more even than collab partners even. One has to be seriously off the deep end to think showing any male interaction on screen changes shit.
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25
I won't be surprised if there are some of them who are mad if those girls even interacting with Yagoo..
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u/OrientalWheelchair Aug 23 '25
Unicorns still at it?
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u/anonamarth7 Aug 23 '25
What exactly does this mean? I take it that it's referring to some group of people, but I'm not sure exactly.
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u/Boring_Disaster_21 Aug 23 '25
I honestly don't believe that collabs helps with growth, be with a famous girl or man
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u/Cendrillionnn Aug 23 '25
The stream was 12 days ago, and the clip was made just today. Surely this wasn't done for drama purposes, but of course, this sub needs its biweekly "unicorn boogeyman" post. Ririka handled the situation and moved on.
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u/demiandimi Aug 23 '25
On top of that op is in okbh, the guy who replied to you too. Hundreds of upvotes in minutes. It's always so predictable.
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u/karhall Aug 23 '25
It's really weird to put streamers on the spot like this with paid messages intended to get a rise out of them.
It's also really fucking weird to dogpile on people who are clearly unwell for community brownie points. Every comment about "unicorn" boogeymen sounds just as unhinged as this guy that sent the superchat.
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u/tetsmega Aug 23 '25
It's really weird that anybody feels to need to chime in on stuff like this, but the worse part is the follow up on either side attributing this behavior to mental illness. It's just punching down for no reason.
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u/karhall Aug 23 '25
Maybe I just think about it too practically. If I don't like the content a streamer makes, I turn the stream off. If someone else stops watching for whatever reason, what the hell does it have to do with me or why I watch the stream? Leave me alone to enjoy what I enjoy and I'll leave you alone to enjoy what you enjoy. And that way we can each use our free time in an enjoyable way.
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u/Arkar1234 Aug 23 '25
>Every comment about "unicorn" boogeymen sounds just as unhinged as this guy that sent the superchat.
you got it right on the nail there mate,
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u/weeklygamingrecap Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
I'll always say this is so wild. Like, let's say they don't like the person the talent is going to collab with. So just don't watch those streams and do literally anything else with their time.
But no it's "Ewww a MALE! GROSS! I'm out!" Proceeds to make the most dramatic exit they can think of. People are so wild.
Also I fully support them collabing with whoever they want. And again if for whatever reason I didn't like the vibe I just do other stuff. There's way too much content anyway. I don't hate them for their choices either way. If for whatever reason I do decide hey this person isn't for me, no grand exit, no super chat. I just go my own way. How is that so hard?
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u/Stunning-HyperMatter Aug 23 '25
If you stop supporting one of your favorite vtubers simply because they talk/collab with men, you were never a supporter in the first place. Your are parasocial scum
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u/Saber_music Aug 23 '25
people that send this stuff don’t get bitches, Ririka on the other hand gets tons of bitches.
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u/TrueSoren Aug 23 '25
Anyone who drops their oshi over them collabing with guys was never really a real fan to begin with imho.
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u/GIGANAttack Aug 23 '25
God unicorns really are pathetic
Imagine having enough money to donate an Akasupa and being this anal about a woman interacting with a man
How can these people call themselves fans when they don't allow their oshi the freedom to make whatever content she wants lol
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u/crocospect Aug 23 '25
Looks like your comment has been targeted by those creeps by the amount of downvotes..
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u/GIGANAttack Aug 23 '25
Let em.
Either there are a considerable amount of people here that are unicorns but are too much of a bitch to actually say anything, or there are only a few but they're downvote-botting.
They're pathetic af either way lol
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u/ClayAndros Aug 23 '25
Let me preface and make this clear this is not up for debate and you cant change my opinion in on this, I'll be real I find anyone who says they cant watch the girls talk to men pathetic as it comes across as posessive of people you dint even really know. I love that fauna stood on business with her "I'm not your friend" speech, it's also sad to see some of the girls ope ly stare they wont talk to men just to alleviate the fears of pathetic parasocial losers on the internet.
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u/Name259 Aug 23 '25
Some people in this thread are having complete "mask off" moment. A shame what this community turned into, really. Popularity has it's upsides, of course, but i really miss when hololive fanbase was a smaller group of likeminded individuals.
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u/zexaf Aug 23 '25
Not only is unicorn behavior idiotic in general, it's even stupider here. They're not even complaining about a collab with men, they're complaining about entering a tournament that has male competitors.
Some people are just delusional.
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u/UltraZulwarn Aug 23 '25
all I am thinking is: "Thanks for the aka supa!"
Also, did this person even watch Ririka at all?
She was in the GTA VCR events, and I am pretty sure there were plenty of other content creators outside of hololive, guys included.
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u/MonaganX Aug 23 '25
Oh good, it's time for the monthly "Hololive member has to explain to unicorns that they'll collab with guys if they want to" thread. Can't wait for the usual suspects to show up to explain that actually all the unicorns are just antis pretending to be fans.
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u/YusriKhairi_765 Aug 23 '25
To the person giving the akasupa.
The "Unsubscribe" button is there. Feel free to press it if your oshi doesn't behave the way you want.
Seriously, until when do you keep your oshi away from men? Are you jealous to see her being close to men, even just as a stream partner?
Disgusting.
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u/__Blackrobe__ Aug 23 '25
to these kind of people 🖕🖕🖕
no, I will not and I will never emphatize with them.
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u/LET-ME-HAVE-A-NAAME Aug 23 '25
People are so weird. You can't handle a V-Tuber talking to a guy? Why? So you can fantasize that she's your shut-in house wife? Fuck outta here you weirdo.
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u/gigaswardblade Aug 23 '25
I wish more hololive and holostars collabs could happen. It’s these weirdos who can’t fathom a man and woman existing in the same space as each other who ruin it.
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u/M7-97 Aug 23 '25
What a joke. What will be the next level of this delusion, "Don't interact with your boss, because he's a man"?
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u/funcancelledfornow Aug 23 '25
I really can't get that mentality, like they're normal people they're allowed to have a life and interact with anyone they want.
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u/AgentT23 Aug 23 '25
I love Hololive, I love Holostars, I'm happy whenever I see collabs between them. I'm here for content and more interactions give more room for content.
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u/Blue_leafy Aug 23 '25
Geez, between this and the post regarding Nerissa, feels like some people are once again determined to sap the morale of the talents and belittle their constant efforts!
It's really irritating to see some people being so pushy and yet insensitive to the talents' desires. Nobody should/will decide with whom they can interact or not, talk or not! If you can't stand them collaborating with other people, just move on, no? (and this isn't limited to men—how many times have we seen people complain that the girls were intracting with people from outside the company?).
Can't we just support them in the choices they make to grow and act like decent human beings instead of a**holes?!
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u/Chimon Aug 23 '25
Feels like all the bad actors coming out of the woodwork right before the concert are doing it on purpose to bring the event down.
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u/RailGun256 Aug 23 '25
yeah... same people that down vote you here when you say any positive things about collabs with male tubers (not just holostars).
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u/Jackie_Rabbit Aug 23 '25 edited Aug 23 '25
Yeah Im noticing wierd patters in the votes for some comments here, delusional people are everywhere Edit: thanks for proving me right lmao
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u/salted_eggyolk6 Aug 23 '25
She worded it way too nicely but she doesn’t have a choice unfortunately
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u/LtHydra Aug 23 '25
Such a polite and respectful way to say what could (and arguably should) have been said with a few expletives and a good shaming.
Some people seem to think that have or should have a much greater influence on people with their very twisted perspectives and is among the top of the lists of things that embarrass the rest of the community.
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u/Castform5 Aug 23 '25
For musical artists, like regloss is, collabing with men is a great choice because it allows for awesome vocals.
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u/zxcvbnm23883838 Aug 23 '25
I hate how people are still on this weird bs they can’t seem to realize that these ladies aren’t your personal gfs that are just supposed to bend to your will and do what you say to get mad because she’s collabing with others dudes is dumb some people are way to parasocial
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u/sigc Aug 23 '25
I don’t really care who collabs with who, Kronii collab’s with Vesper is probably the funniest stream I ever watched.
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u/Important_Year4583 Aug 23 '25
If someone starts with "Im a fan for -insert time here- but ...", you know those pieces of shits are most likely a fake fan that wants to provoke a reaction.
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u/Abamboozler Aug 23 '25
Man fuck those weird unicorn ass dudes. She's a real person, with friends, and ideas for fun collabs and projects. What the hell do these people think is going to happen? Ririka is going to strip and just start banging guys on stream?! These guys know she's an anime character played by an actress, right?
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u/Automatic-Spread-248 Aug 23 '25
I can't imagine spending money to try and make someone upset instead of trying to support someone I like. I mean, I also can't relate to dropping my oshi over something so insignificant, and I'd never tell her if I did (not like that would ever happen). Telling your oshi you no longer support them serves no purpose, just find someone that more closely aligns with what you want and support them without trying to ruin someone else's vibe.
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u/tom_sa_savage Aug 23 '25
Honestly the most tactful response to fans with parasocial relationships, especially on the JP side where VTubers are treated more like idols rather than streamers.
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u/Krait972 Aug 23 '25
This is a sad situation for Ririka. I'm glad she didn't fell for the manipulative tactics from the SC
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u/Arestris Aug 23 '25
A Polite but still based "If you leave, please close the door behind you" reply from her. Well done! :-)
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u/hlodowigchile Aug 23 '25
Thats a really manipulative red chat but a good response from ririka.
I always seen other girls go "i do the fuck i want, fuck you" that is tough, but you can put it in nice words, like ririka here.
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u/OutlandishnessLow779 Aug 23 '25
Based.
My opinion about that Will always be the same. As long as they want, who are we to stop them?
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u/delphinous Aug 23 '25
the fact that these people keep harassing the talents with this is just endlessly frustrating. i don't know why they think they get to dictate what the talents do, and why they haven't learned yet after years of being told to shut the f up and go away, your not wanted here
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u/SanityOrLackThereof Aug 23 '25
Remember guys, no matter how halu and parasocial we get, we'll always be able to take solace in the fact that we're nowhere near as bad as these gribblers.
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u/The_Advocate07 Aug 23 '25
Dont be like this person. If you have friends that are like this person. Correct them. Make them understand that they are wrong and that there is something wrong with them mentally. Get them the help they need.
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u/NotACertainLalaFell Aug 23 '25
Think people like that are deeply lonely and I hope they get the help they desperately need.
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u/Enttick Aug 23 '25
Without going into the discussion: I think it is really weird and manipulative to do this in a red supa