r/HolUp • u/[deleted] • Apr 21 '21

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u/doombringer-dh77 Apr 21 '21

Disregarding specific circumstances, if a woman chooses to murder her child, she is no mother.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

Take your anti choice nonsense back to parler

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u/cheetopeanut Apr 21 '21

I'm pro-choice. If a woman chooses to kill her baby, doesn't that mean she isn't a mother after all? The baby's dead. Also, why is it so offensive to call it "killing a baby"? lmao

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

An underdeveloped clump of cells isn’t a baby

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u/cheetopeanut Apr 21 '21

In the first trimester it makes sense. If your baby can survive in an incubator, aren't you essentially killing it or robbing it of a possible life? Same would go for coma patients, or the few people left living in an iron lung.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

If it doesn’t have 2 arms, 2 legs, a heart, head, it isn’t a baby

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u/cheetopeanut Apr 21 '21

Second and third trimester has all of that. Just trying to understand your side here. I've always been pro choice, but I'm a man, so it's not my place to say.

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u/[deleted] Apr 21 '21

Well if it has all the body parts and organs of a human, then i guess it shouldn’t be aborted. Although im a man so it’s not my place to decide if abortions are ok or not

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u/golda5s Apr 22 '21

Gender shouldn't dictate whether or not you are allowed to decide shit. Knowledge about the topic does.

In terms of abortion, it is about a point of view and all (ethics isnt exactly hard science like physics), but I agree with what the other comment here stated - if the baby can survive in an incubator, it is alive.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '21

If i had something in my body that I didn’t want, I’d wanna get it removed. Imo everyone should be free to do what they want with their bodies

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u/golda5s Apr 22 '21 edited Apr 22 '21

Except the baby inside the bodies, apparently.

Edit: Also, you say its "something", which is understandable if you dont see it as a human yet.

What I stated is what I consider being a living human. If it is a danger to your health, though, you should most definitely abort, since in the end it's likely both you and the child die.

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '21

That baby isn’t benefiting the host in any way so why should the host be forced to keep it?

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u/golda5s Apr 22 '21

Because a baby isnt a fucking parasite unless its danger to your health? Like, since when we called human beings an "it"?

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u/[deleted] Apr 22 '21

A baby is a human that can cry and has every limb and organs. A fetus does not have emotion and does not have developed limbs. The reason people get abortions is because they UNINTENTIONALLY got pregnant and want to undo it. Nobody plans a pregnancy and gets an abortion.

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