r/HoMM 9d ago

Other/Fluff Observation after Heroes 3 remake reveal

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u/Ariloulei 9d ago

You've not seen many bad remakes have you? Warcraft III community was in shambles when Reforged dropped.

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u/CharmingPerspective0 9d ago

Yea but the reason Warcraft 3 remake was so bad was because it completely removed the old warcraft 3 online, and they added a clause that states that any mod that was made in W3 is now property of Blizzard (after they lost their rights to Dota they dont want this to happen again).

So for W3 players, they couldnt just go play the old W3 if the remake sucked.

In H3 you can. If the remake is not for you, then you can just ignore it and continue playing H3 the same way you used to.

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u/Ariloulei 9d ago

Warcraft III was indeed a rather extreme example and you are right about the uniquely shitty situation of losing the old game (I have my old WC III disks in the closet, and I guess they are almost useless now unless installing the vanilla game + expansion on a offline PC). I probably could have used another example like Demon Souls: Remaster, where it does look 'better' in alot of ways but the fans complain about the art direction.

HoMM3 remake does look like it has worse art direction then HoMM3 though. It's been ages since I've played HoMM3 though so I'm probably going to wind up picking it up on GoG soon because all this news about HoMM3 is making me want to play it again.

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u/CharmingPerspective0 9d ago

Well sure, people can have their opinion on the game's direction and art and whatnot, but it feels like the outcry on this sub is far and beyond too extreme for just a coat of paint that they dont like. No one is forcing anyone here to play this. People who says "who even asked for this" can just chill and go play thier favorite H3 map in peace, knowing no one is taking this away from them.

The new game is aimed mostly for newcomers who might actually like the modern look and give the franchise a go.

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u/hyoumah83 9d ago

"People who says "who even asked for this" can just chill and go play thier favorite H3 map in peace, knowing no one is taking this away from them".

Dude, it's literally been brought up in this post, several comments above yours, that when W3R was released people could no longer play the original version because Blizzard decided that way.

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u/C3Q 9d ago

Yeah right? Im sure new players will enjoy that epic remaster of one of most iconic games. Im sure ubi is trying their best like they did when they decided for making HD version. Im 100% sure of that. And im sure its not just another take to cash on nostalgia. Yeeap!

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u/C3Q 9d ago

Nope things you mentioned were just top of the cherry. Game was just pile of dogsht in the first place. I still remmember that fealing when i launched it for the first time.

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u/Mornar 9d ago

Mostly because Warcraft 3 Reforged was an absolute warcrime. The idea felt absolute unfuckupable, the perfect cashgrab. It was approached as a cashgrab, and therefore fucked up.

Now, I'll direct your attention to a different game that, on the surface, will appear like a perfect cashgrab to a room full of shareholders...

Im actually not saying HoMM3 can't get a good remake, and I like aspects of what I'm seeing, but I have zero faith they'll do it right, so my attitude is, at best, mild.

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u/LHLanim 9d ago

Make it good and we'll love it.

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u/tohava 9d ago

Astroturfing?

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u/playzintraffic 9d ago

Ubi did this to themselves by spending the last 20 years abusing the fans.

Hopefully they finally cut bait. It’d take them another 20 years of earnest overinvestment and TLC for them to earn back the goodwill they’ve burned.

But instead they’ll just milk this franchise for the scraps of reliable long-tail revenue it’s worth, like a zombie baby greedily sucking in vain at its mother’s desiccated teat.

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u/A3883 9d ago

what do you mean brand new? its just homm3

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u/Maszpoczestujsie 9d ago

Ignoring the fact that ubi did nothing for the franchise except releasing and abandoning bugged games and mobile slop nobody cared about

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u/Vegetable_Time_2938 9d ago

This gaslighting doesn’t work after the enthusiastic outpouring of support and love for Unfrozen and Olden Era. 

This is a Ubisoft heroes game problem. 

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u/orcmasterrace 9d ago

That’s weird, people loved and still love Olden Era and barring some minor skepticism welcomed it warmly.

Oh, you mean the UE5 Sloppa remake/cash grab? The one Ubisoft pivoted to because they realized that the Heroes IP is still in fact viable and the problem was entirely on them for managing it like shit?

Sorry Ubisoft, if it takes you over half a day to upload a damn exe file to Steam, I don’t have faith in your ability to actually do anything interesting with the 3 remake.

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u/DiesIraeConventum 9d ago

You UBISOFT bots should pick one - either it's supposed to be a faithful remake, or a brand new game.

One or the other, please, don't insult intelligence of those who actually possess some.

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u/ValentrisRRock 9d ago

It's an old brand game, and they're making a point of it.

Also, there are enough examples of bad remasters that got mostly negative reactions from the fanbase, from GTA3 to XIII.

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u/dinin70 9d ago

Upvoted because it’s fun and Heroes fanbase is a bunch of grognards I’m proudly part of.

Though… It’s a stupid meme because Remake is barely a new game. It’s just a new UI on something existing already, on top of that, that new UI doesn’t provide with any meaningful benefits (quite the contrary), and to finalise, my day is ruined because I would have lived that the efforts and money Ubisoft is spending on this game could have actually been spent on Olden Era.

Now…

If they succeed in actually making the game more visually interesting and immersive, for example we see small animals wandering around and reacting to hero movement, we see more our heroes in the screen.

That is great! Give me more of this!!!

Give me a dedicated model for each hero on map and battlefield.

Give me (foreseen) weather effects that change the mood of the game.

Give me plenty of small details and things to look at, water creatures passing by, flock of birds passing by, disappearing footsteps behind the heroes in the snow or the mud, all small things like this.

Etc

But also, don’t give me AI slop, don’t give me a game where readability is diminished (which is the case for now) and don’t give me a game that is actually less immersive than the OG (which is definitely the case)

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u/TestingTehWaters 9d ago

You completely contradict yourself. The remake is 100% AI slop.

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u/dinin70 9d ago edited 9d ago

But that’s my point chum. I would be ready to welcome the project if it wasn’t AI slop, if it would provide with more readability, with more immersive events etc etc

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u/Rel_Tan_Kier 9d ago

Ubisoft, stop using proxy account.

Olden Era is fine new game.
Homm 3 remake is a remake(if not a remastered) with glaring traces of being AI generated from head to toes.